• CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    4 months ago

    Гарантийный без ошибка памяти!

    I unironically think it would be hilarious to write a borrow checker for Адрес.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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        4 months ago

        Not surprised. The Russian Wikipedia page on it is just a stub. The English one is actually longer.

        I can’t find any online introductions to it or compilers for it either, in English or написал по-Русски. Or Ukrainian for that matter, assuming I’d know it if I see it, although the Wikipedia page is longer.

  • Mad_Punda@feddit.org
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    4 months ago

    I suspect there’s more people who speak Python fluently than Esperanto. So that comparison sits very wrong with me. The rest was funny :)

    • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      Esperanto’s equivalent would probably be Haskell.

      Python is probably more like Spanish. Very easy basics, but then people from different regions of where it’s has spread out barely understand each other

    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
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      4 months ago

      Esperanto always struck me as more perl-like with each part of speech having its own suffix like perl has $ for scalars, @ for arrays, and % for hashes. Though perl is probably more like a bunch of pidgins…

      • umbraroze@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Yeah, I was about to say.

        Perl 5 is like Esperanto: borrowed neat features from many languages, somehow kinda vaguely making a bit of sense. Enjoyed some popularity back in the day but is kind of niche nowadays.

        PHP is like Volapük: same deal, but without the linguistic competence and failing miserably at being consistent.

        Raku (Perl 6) is like Esperanto reformation efforts: Noble and interesting scholarly pursuits, with dozens of fans around the multiverse.

  • Flipper@feddit.org
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    4 months ago

    I want to disagree on German. It isn’t verbose. We’ve got several words where there isn’t an equivalent in pretty much any other languages. Including Schadenfreude und Torschlusspanik (the feeling that you are getting older l, can’t find a partner and will die alone).

    The same EU legal text has in German 22.118 words Vs English 24.698.

    The making me cry part, that’s fair. Overcomplicated, could be worse.

    • BatmanAoD@programming.dev
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      4 months ago

      I wonder what the best programming analogue is for combining words into one where other languages keep them separate; maybe the functional-style chains of adapters?

    • kenbw2@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      The same EU legal text has in German 22.118 words Vs English 24.698.

      That needs a character count really. Words isn’t a particularly relevant measure when the language uses compound words

    • dirkgentle@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      I think word count is not the best metric precisely because of what you mention. “Krankenversicherungskarte” is one word vs the three word “health insurance card”, but they convey the same information in roughly the same amount of characters.

      Overall I don’t find German particularly verbose, only sometimes a small phrase is condensed into a single word.

      • Lysergid@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        I don’t know german but it seems to be more logical to have one word for “health insurance card” since it describes one class of objects. Better than spelling 3 nouns where one partially describes what object is and other nouns act like clarification

  • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Perl is… forgotten entirely, despite its efforts in getting us from there to here.

    Yup, checks out.

    PHP also, but good riddance:-D.

    Shell scripting is the ink that makes up these words - without them, you would never have seen this image.

    • kboy101222@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      4 months ago

      I think Perl is closer to Esperanto - the vast majority of people will never want to learn it and the people that know it won’t stfu about how everyone should use it! And they could all use a shower!

      (I kid… Mostly)

      • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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        4 months ago

        You… you shut up! Excuse me, I have to go take a shower:-) (/s)

        Anyway you’re right (no /s) - at one point it filled in a gap between the likes of C++ and Assembly on the one hand and shell scripting (bash, awk, grep, sed, each with its own syntax and very little of that shared in common with one another) and I guess Fortran on the other. I still prefer it enormously to everything else - it’s quirky but fun:-) - though I get why a less experienced person should choose Python and stick with it, even as we all wish that there was another alternative that would work better than either.

        And since I can’t resist: Perl is 8-20x faster than Python, and major websites like DuckDuckGo and booking.com use it. Sigh…I guess it’s time for that shower now:-).

    • Wiz@midwest.socialEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Mi pensas ke, vi volis tajpi, “Python (aŭ Pitono) malfeliĉigas min.”

      • Mal : Opposite
      • Feliĉ- : Happy
      • Ig : Makes (Transitive verb)
      • As : Present tense.

      “Mi malfeliĉas.” : I’m sad.

      “Pitono malfeliĉigas ĉiujn.” (Python makes everyone sad.)

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 months ago

    oddly enough those also correspond approximately to how well I (native German speaker) know each of these languages; but why is there a stereotype that us Python devs and Esperantists need to shower more? :(

  • vga@sopuli.xyz
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    4 months ago

    PHP is Russian. Used to be huge, caused lots of problems, now slowly dwindling away. Its supporters keep saying how it’s still better than the competition.

  • Wiz@midwest.socialEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Ackshully, Clojure is Esperanto, and I will not be taking questions at this time.

  • BatmanAoD@programming.dev
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    4 months ago

    Surprised nobody has complained so far about the Rust comparison. I guess any objection would appear to prove the point, or at least reinforce the “evangelist” stereotype.