Not OC: Just found this on my old hard drive while grabbing some other stuff.
Is “IT” a general term for tech workers in some places? I keep seeing people refer to it as such, but where I am, it is a term which primarily describes networking and infrastructure professionals.
Network engineering is kind of in the middle where you take the skill set of help desk and office management. This often leads to help desk and software development both falling under the organization in information technology. Application support also often falls under this category.
IT stands for Information Technology. Relevant Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_technology
Yes, that is consistent with my understanding - networking and infrastructure. Engineering and management is generally not considered IT where I am unless they are directly supporting networking and infrastructure. But someone writing code for a game or app wouldn’t be IT.
Software devs and designers usually fall under IT is my understanding but I can see why many people/places would make the distinction. Especially for companies that only write software, their IT would more be the infrastructure, but if they’re only writing software for in house use that’s more on the IT side. I could be completely wrong about this too, just how I saw them grouped.
The wiki link states software to be included in the definition. Management is not IT of course, but as there exists management in IT is used in the image I’d guess.
Right, there is definitely a software side of IT, but not all software is IT adjacent. IT software is really a very small field these days, compared to software in general.
Yeah, it’s a generic term here that encompasses most tech jobs
I kinda want an “End Users” one, too (already know what their “Sysadmins” would be).
The great promise of the cloud was to outsource sysadmins to be Microsoft and Amazon’s problem.
That absolutely was a huge part of the marketing pitch, but as one who supports his company’s cloud infrastructure…
Lol. Rofl. Lmao even.
Maybe that works for places that don’t have heavy tech needs. Maybe.
Sounds oddly familiar. Cloud ops at an msp BTW
At the cost of getting new sysadmins who are less numerous, but ask for more money, and best of all, you get to pay Microsoft and Amazon to train them!
Not only that, but it’s no longer your problem when its in the cloud. You can blame the cloud for everything!
“Yeah we’re familiar with this
issuedesign, and have opened 17 support requests and upvoted 5 user voice posts to Microsoft about it. But hey we have this workaround that is not maintainable that you can use meanwhile”
It’s almost like marketing makes it sound like it’s a fully-managed, worry-free service where users can just call up Bill Gates himself instead of hundreds of management portals someone has to babysit.
They said that about computers going to make books disappear forty years ago… They never printed so many books that attempted to explain how those damn computers worked!
Microsoft when you don’t pay out the ass for support:
As a sysadmin, the sysadmin parts are 100% true
Not exactly, at least for me QA is my best friend, makes my job much easier.
Joking aside, I have a lot of respect for quality QA, and developers who actually listen to and work with their target audience and operations teams
the illustration of the devs with 500 years of xp was missing hahaha
As a developer, I see sysadmins/devops as black magic masochists
As a DevOps guy, I can tell you we’re black magic sadists. You should feel the pain. Not us.
Pls no. I can only take so much Terraform
Did you even try to validate before creating that PR???
PR?
git checkout main && git pull branch && git push --force
I refer to our sysadmin as a BOFH and he doesn’t seem to mind. The younger devs don’t know the term without googling it.
The sysadmin column feels so right.
What’s BOFH? Bitch Ole Fucking Hippie?
Edit: Ah, bastard operator from hell.
Bastard Operator From Hell
I refer to our sysadmin as a BOFH and he doesn’t seem to mind.
He’s probably secretly delighted, although of course he’d never tell you that.
I choose to take that as a compliment (if it wasn’t). lol
Linux sysadmin here. I only give the finger to security folk and sales folk, the rest of you are fine. I know the CVEs that get backported, get out of my slack.
OMG yes we need a customer addition and a security addition. It’s so hard to find a place to work with a competent AND reasonable ISSM
I was in tier 1 support for a few years back in the day, so I’m trying to think of an appropriate image. Based on my experience… something disposable.
Helpdesk? You guys are like the people who have to go and fix a melting nuclear reactor. Necessary but only do it for like a year or two otherwise you get broken.
Moss & Roy from IT Crowd
Do a column for linux stans.
Okay I just went and did it. Hopefully this offends at least 1 person so this wasn’t a waste of time.
As someone who has been working in IT for 20+ years this is completely inaccurate except for the sys admin column.
Found the SysAdmin
I sense a theme, when it comes to the sysadmins.
One might note they also have the highest average income
Fuck no we don’t.
Averages are fun. It’s likely Opsy roles do have the highest average. But it’s also very true that devs have the highest ceilings. There’s just very few devs making 600+ and the majority at 120-150. Then there is an absolute shit load of opsys making 160-200. So in ops you hit the ceiling super fast while the occasional dev just keeps rocketing to bullshit pay but the averages are what they are
(Hiring manager for devops. I get the raw data through a corporate data broker)
How dare you accuse salary.com of lying to me?!?!?
Having been a sysadmin you would be surprised at both the amount of times I had to explain why we couldn’t just put an unprotected endpoint outside the firewall and also how much alcohol I drank to cope with the former.
It is like being builder to architects that think you can have a second story just floating in midair. I am baffled by how ignorant of the basics of infrastructure many developers are.
Obviously I don’t expect a website dev to know the details of like iptables configs for load balancing with failover or whatever. Or even be terribly familiar with how to set up a production web server. I do expect people to know stuff like every computer on the internet is under constant attack from scripts. Or that taking advantage of peoples’ trust and leaking their data is bad actually.
Daniel?
What are the odds of that working?
Also all sysadmins share a hive mind.
I guess the hive Mind saves on the booze. It’s after 5 in some sysadmin’s time zone
Only people I ever have a problem with are Project Managers. I have had way more bad experiences with utterly psychotic PMs than PMs who are actually good at their job. Everybody else is super cool, but I swear all of you are alcoholics. At least Sales pays for the drinks?
A good PM is rare because as soon as you get one, they’ll get poached within a few months.
Or burned out because they get pulled into every project that’s gone off the rails.
Ohhh that’s me right now. I work in a consultancy and I only got assigned to projects that are on fire. It’s almost 24 months without a gap between projects. Help me ಥ_ಥ
Help me ಥ_ಥ
“For those of us who are about to die, we salute you!”
I’m hoping you’re not just an employee of that consultancy, but a contractor instead, and that you charge a good hourly rate, considering the situation you’re in.
Put your foot down, establish boundaries, and take a well deserved vacation with 0 communication to work while on it. Otherwise, I would start looking somewhere else. Your health is more important.
Yup, before I went into tech I worked at an architecture firm and we had this one absolutely amazing PM from Australia who was smart, a clear communicator, and so much more on top of his shit then any other PM and he burnt out and quit and moved back to Australia after like 2 years because they just kept throwing him into the absolute biggest messes since he was clearly the best at cleaning them up.
He’s also the one who I got drunk at an airport bar with and just repeatedly urged me to leave the company and go somewhere well run … there were pretty clear signs he wasn’t enjoying his assignments.
Your failure to provide a reliable source for your claims is not my problem.
If you cannot provide a reliable source of your claims, your claim will be dismissed.
This tracks, my new boss used to be a PM, and she’s God awful.
As a seasoned sysadmin, I approve.
Moar jpeg!
I have extended the jpeg
Who wants to keep it going?
it’s an artifact is how many times it’s been reposted, like rings on a tree
That customer is missing y’all.
