Not OC: Just found this on my old hard drive while grabbing some other stuff.
The entire sys admin column is so on point!
I was a sysadmin, once…Not for long.
As a sysadmin, I concur.
A fellow sysadmin, I thought we went extinct. I had to pivot to “infrastructure engineer” but it’s basically the same thing nowadays.
Not quite extinct, but endangered.
Thankfully there’s been a recent trend of companies pulling back out of the cloud because reality set in and they’re neither saving money nor getting a better experience than they had with their on-prem solutions.
So, if that trend holds, we’ll hopefully go from endangered to merely threatened.
Keep up the good fight my friend. We shall rise again.
Rise again you shall, from the ash of the burning sky.
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
I’m an olde dog sysadmin at this point. The end is nigh!
I have two weeks left as a sysadmin and I’m transitioning to development. My experiences in sysadmin are a big reason I got in the door with little coding experience. A lot of devs don’t have an in depth knowledge about computers outside of programming, and knowing that extra stuff can certainly raise the ceiling.
My position is still called sysadmin shrugs
Didn’t you guys morph into DevOps?
DevOps on the resume, Sysadmin in my heart forever.
Job titles in IT don’t mean anything these days.
In particular, the term “engineer” has been butchered beyond recognition.
Wait so you’re telling me I’m NOT an engineer?
Agreed. I usually say developer because I view engineers as people who do actual engineering. I’m more of a plumber who fits pipes (pieces of software) together.
Iirc it’s full blown illegal to call yourself an engineer in Canada unless you’re a licensed engineer. Meaning that if you marketed yourself as a software engineer without an engineering license, you could technically get in trouble. Not that I think they really enforce that for “Software Engineer”.
Digital archaelogist here.
Warm greetings to you from the Customer Success Evangelist.
That sounds like an actual job title, that works alongside a React Ninja. What do you do, exactly?
Wait so you’re telling me I’m NOT an engineer?
Are you licensed by the state? There’s your answer!
My first job was as an “engineer”.
I spent most my time resetting passwords and setting up Outlook…
I’m an analyst. I’ve never analyzed anything.
I’m an architect, I’ve never designed a house.
Project Manager x QA = The TA… I thought it was astronauts floating around in space or some shit lol.
Thank you! I squinted so hard. 😖
The designers as seen by designers is so right.
Nothing they come up with can be wrong, it’s all innovative!!
Sysadmin’s lol : we put the ‘no’ in innovation.
I feel like this is more “how we feel we get perceived by others” moreso.
I try and perceive all the members of my team as, well, my team. I heavily appreciate everyone busting their assess off and contributions.
However, there are folks on each layer that do actually treat others like this and I think we can all agree those people suuuuck.
As a sysadmin, the sysadmin parts are 100% true
Not exactly, at least for me QA is my best friend, makes my job much easier.
Joking aside, I have a lot of respect for quality QA, and developers who actually listen to and work with their target audience and operations teams
Is “IT” a general term for tech workers in some places? I keep seeing people refer to it as such, but where I am, it is a term which primarily describes networking and infrastructure professionals.
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Yes, that is consistent with my understanding - networking and infrastructure. Engineering and management is generally not considered IT where I am unless they are directly supporting networking and infrastructure. But someone writing code for a game or app wouldn’t be IT.
The wiki link states software to be included in the definition. Management is not IT of course, but as there exists management in IT is used in the image I’d guess.
Right, there is definitely a software side of IT, but not all software is IT adjacent. IT software is really a very small field these days, compared to software in general.
Software devs and designers usually fall under IT is my understanding but I can see why many people/places would make the distinction. Especially for companies that only write software, their IT would more be the infrastructure, but if they’re only writing software for in house use that’s more on the IT side. I could be completely wrong about this too, just how I saw them grouped.
Yeah, it’s a generic term here that encompasses most tech jobs
Network engineering is kind of in the middle where you take the skill set of help desk and office management. This often leads to help desk and software development both falling under the organization in information technology. Application support also often falls under this category.
Moar jpeg!
I have extended the jpeg
Who wants to keep it going?
it’s an artifact is how many times it’s been reposted, like rings on a tree
I kinda want an “End Users” one, too (already know what their “Sysadmins” would be).
I sense a theme, when it comes to the sysadmins.
One might note they also have the highest average income
Fuck no we don’t.
Averages are fun. It’s likely Opsy roles do have the highest average. But it’s also very true that devs have the highest ceilings. There’s just very few devs making 600+ and the majority at 120-150. Then there is an absolute shit load of opsys making 160-200. So in ops you hit the ceiling super fast while the occasional dev just keeps rocketing to bullshit pay but the averages are what they are
(Hiring manager for devops. I get the raw data through a corporate data broker)
How dare you accuse salary.com of lying to me?!?!?
Having been a sysadmin you would be surprised at both the amount of times I had to explain why we couldn’t just put an unprotected endpoint outside the firewall and also how much alcohol I drank to cope with the former.
It is like being builder to architects that think you can have a second story just floating in midair. I am baffled by how ignorant of the basics of infrastructure many developers are.
Obviously I don’t expect a website dev to know the details of like iptables configs for load balancing with failover or whatever. Or even be terribly familiar with how to set up a production web server. I do expect people to know stuff like every computer on the internet is under constant attack from scripts. Or that taking advantage of peoples’ trust and leaking their data is bad actually.
Daniel?
What are the odds of that working?
Also all sysadmins share a hive mind.
I guess the hive Mind saves on the booze. It’s after 5 in some sysadmin’s time zone
Do a column for linux stans.
Okay I just went and did it. Hopefully this offends at least 1 person so this wasn’t a waste of time.
As someone who has been working in IT for 20+ years this is completely inaccurate except for the sys admin column.
Found the SysAdmin
That customer is missing y’all.
As a developer, the baby is how I see developers, too.
As a seasoned sysadmin, I approve.
