Turns out you can make up any arbitrary distinctions and they just start existing. The question is if they severe any useful purpose.
I can make zodiac 2.0 exist by adding shoe size to distinguish between regular aquarius and aquarius without platypus (above EU 42 is with). So now the Zodiac 2.0 exists with the same predictive power as 1.0.
zodiac 2.0
Already kind of a thing, since the constellations the zodiacs were based on have moved since they were “decided”, and no longer match what people continue to use:
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/31/1222132825/checking-your-2024-horoscope-astronomy-explains-why-your-sign-might-have-changedWhat do you predict for regular Aries this week?
Exercise diligence when putting your shoes on, pay special attention to the laces or you will suffer great sorrow.
Don’t worry we already have Zodiac 2.0
And Zodiac 3.0
This one is like a D&D game.
Except no where near as fun
I’m disappointed none of these are Github links
Considering how the universe is full of stuff circling around stuff circling around stuff circling around… the zodiac signs have moved over the last couple of millenias.
Yup, position of zodiac constellations has changed, thanks to axial precession
Not that I believe in astrology, but just because the constellations moved doesn’t mean that humans weren’t able to track them. They still form a ring around Earth and the precession of the Zodiacs still occurs.
The fact humans are able to track them is how we know the zodiacs are no longer accurate. According to astrology if you were born on Dec. 1 for example, you’re considered a Sagittarius… except you’re ACTUALLY a Scorpio, due to the constellations shifting.
I believe the point is not that the zodiacs don’t occur at all, it’s that the time you are born is no longer the same time the original zodiac occured.
I would argue that the zodiac is the proto-science of psychology.
This is people trying to find behavioral patterns
Faulty pattern recognition isn’t something we should be holding on to.
It is the alchemy to the chemistry is what they are saying
And how many people are still using Alchemy?
They told us the history of alchemy in chemistry class, it’s good to know the context.
Yes, but no one credible still uses it. Which was the point I was making.
“I turned 5 pounds of lead into gold this morning using this one weird trick that chemists HATE! Subscribe to my premium substack to learn more!”
So not at all based in science? Interesting as a historical curiosity but nothing more?
Interesting because of the psychological insights into not how all people are, but how people make up theories in general. Same way religion has scientific significance in an anthropological sense.
The problem is that we still don’t have a proper pattern recognition. We could discard all the soft sciences such as Economics, Sociology or Psychology.
What hard sciences could replace economics and sociology? They’re not very rigorous, but they seem to be useful. Psychology also takes some load off psychiatrists
Astrology is also useful.
Fuck those people who wanna categorize me so they can ignore who I actually am and just put a handle on me.
They want to understand you
Then they should talk to me, rather than rely on generalizations that were created a couple of thousand years ago and revived by new age mystics.
No they don’t. They want to put me in a neat little box for easy handling.
I just did a quick search and the difference between seeing astrology talk about fate vs personality is at least 1200 years apart.
Economic Science is also about fate
Cough… science…cough
This is dumb. Dinosaurs looks are so diverse. He should have chosen a specific one.
At least narrow it down to clade, like just Theropods or something.
That’s like saying Huckleberry Finn doesn’t exist. Just because it’s made-up doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It exists as a concept which billions of people understand.
Counterpoint: how can Huckleberry Finn exist if our eyes aren’t real?
Where we’re going we won’t need eyes to see.
Nothing is real! I’m the only sentient entity in the universe. Now stop arguing with me, me.
The Sun’s position on the ecliptic at the vernal equinox is not a “concept”, it’s a physical reality, recognised by the International Astronomical Union.
Disagree on the semantics. Physical realities are concepts as well. “Energy”, despite being an extremely useful physical measurement, is an abstract concept. “Physical realities” and “concepts” are not mutually exclusive nor antonymous words.
In this case, the Aries/vernal point is a concept used to define coordinate systems using physical measures from Earth.
And the astrology signs exist as a concept as recognized by thousands of years of human history dating back to Babylonia 2 BCE. Yes we understand that they’re likely completely bogus, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.
This thread is so dumb. The signs are as real as anything else in the sky.
You are technically correct (the best kind of correct), but the meme is funny anyway.
I think it is pretty clear in the context of the joke that they weren’t saying the concept doesn’t exist they were saying the attributes of the concept doesn’t exist.
I usually say “Ophiuchus”
Which is the official 13th zodiac sign that was removed because 13 is a “bad” number
Actually it was not removed. It just wasn’t on the ecliptic plane before standardisation in 1930.
Constellations on sky change from time to time thanks to axial precession.
Username checks out.
That’s the secret sign that gives you the power of chakra energy transmutation. Richie Blackmore of Deep Purple used this power to become a space trucker.
The people that get the angriest about astrology understand it the least. They think that you’re supposed to tell who you are by looking at one thing, and that couldn’t be farther from the truth.
In reality, it’s a very complex equation with multiple variables that change over time. People don’t understand that your chart reflects many different signs, and where the signs exist on your chart at certain times can describe aspects of your personality.
Having Aries as your sun sign means something different than having Aries as your moon sign. But they still contribute to a larger picture. And then on top of that, depending on if you live out of more negative or positive aspects of your personality can bring out different traits that might not have much to do with your sign at all.
That’s hilarious 😂😂😂 Thank you!
That’s Capricorn is it? https://piped.video/watch?v=WIjBO26qjYM (Life of Brian - 3 wise men)
That made me spit out my coffee🤣
Dinosaurs don’t exist?!
No, only ambiguous bones that could be anything and are interpreted to be dinosaurs by old earth creationists making you believe the earth is older than a millennium. Most bones are actually from giants, unicorns and centaurs depending on the color.
Wait only a millennium?
Does this mean Jesus didn’t really exist and his existence is a trick by God to test our faith?
He lived, obviously, but some years after him were counted twice
As a zodiac sign, no they do not.
But dragons do?
Botanically, dragons are dinosaurs but not the other way around. Most dinosaurs were not dragons.
Botanically speaking, that’s bananas.
Which is my zodiac sign by the way
Isn’t it about time we do something about that? I’m going to write to my congressman.
Ophiuchus
Bless you
Oh. I want steal this.
cue the meme acquisition notice here
You don’t have to steel it. It’s a virtual picture. You can download it and share it with everyone, as often as you like, whenever you want. There’s no cost attached in sharing data other than hardware and energy
Enjoy this FREE* meme
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I like your username. Do you mind sharing where it comes from?
Just rolls off the tongue. Like “cellar door”.
That’s true. It sounds like a children’s book character who’s a woodland creature detective
But…you mean…my nfts?
Those are copy protected by nobody wanting them.
this fucking line
Shit. Then who I have been mailing my money to?
Yep, OP stole this meme.
Yep, OP
stoledistributed this meme.You wouldn’t download a meme.
Thank you for this explanation.
Np, OP also stole it
Zodiac signs are literally constellations… Which are quite real.
Astrology is also real, in the fact that it’s a uselessly real thing. Women love it though. Same with tarot. All you do is make plausible sounding shit up and then they placebo themselves into happiness or nocebo into a sour mood.
That’s not what is meant by real here, dinosaurs are also a real thing
While most zodiac signs are inspired by real animals, wtf is an “aquarius”?
In Dutch we don’t use the Latin names for zodiac signs (and we call them “sterrenbeelden”, which means “star images” or maybe “star statues”). Aquarius is “waterman”, which I guess would translate to (surprise) “water man”.
Why? Not sure, but it might be because of Simon Stevin who insisted we use Dutch words for mathematical concepts, and thought up some words like “evenwijdig” (“same distancey”) for “parallel” and “wiskunde” (“certainty knowledge”) for mathematics.
Aquarius in English is normally called “the water bearer” so a person carrying water (probably back from the well)
Dutch is a strange language.
I agree, and I love how it has these younger words with a vivid etymology, how it shares so many common roots with English, German, the Scandinavian languages, and a serving of French, but also sprinkles of many other languages from its seafaring and otherwise trading history. And I love the grammar rules that allow one to be precise and concise in many things (but there we must definitely bow to German).
Literally, “water man” is correct. But I would translate it a bit more loosely as “water bearer”.
Most, if not all, names of zodiac signs in Dutchare are literal translations from Latin. But while most people understand that Leo means Lion, how many know Cancer is Latin for crab?
Water bearer makes much more sense, thanks! I did notice the images where a guy carries a jug, but as a kid, I always imagined the water man to be some kind of elemental, and I never consciously challenged that idea. Haha.
Gemini, Virgo, Libra and Sagittarius also are not animals. Almost half of them isn’t. But you’re technically correct that ‘most’ is. Which is the best kind of correct.
Only half of the Zodiacs are inspired from real animals. Gemini is two humans, Virgo is a virgin woman, Libra is a Weighing Scale, Sagittarius is a Centaur with a bow, Capricorn is a Sea Goat, and Aquarius is… a cup of water, I guess?
An age. I heard a song about it.
Primal Zodiac (Which combines Western Zodiac with Eastern Animal Years) doesnt have the Dinosaur… but it DOES have the Unicorn
