Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.

For the past few months I’d been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I’d blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.

Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I’d had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.

The breaking point was seeing some dude post a “meme” implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you’re saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell…

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    I tried this with .piefed and it genuinely improved my entire experience.

    Amazing how much dumb bullshit a handful of terminally online losers can create.

              • You can block the instance itself and do that; users posting outside the instance’s own communities are not blocked via the instance blocking feature. It essentially just mass blocks all the communities on the instance, not any of the users.

              • Eldritch@piefed.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                Indeed. This year being a midterm election in the United States I don’t expect to see too much generally. But we’ve only got a couple years before the heavy influx again. Whether it’s bad faith propaganda, or ignorant blue staters treating national elections like their insulated local ones. They’re both tiring and not helpful.

                Democrats especially don’t need help losing. They’re very capable all by themselves. And sadly don’t care about protest votes or undecideds. Nationally all that does is suppress votes, in favor of the worst options. But thankfully DSA has been pushing local candidates across the country showing they are viable and can win. Hopefully Sanders showed enough people that there are other options, and they might be ready to support a DSA adjacent/endorsed presidential candidate. If they can be brave enough to poll their own members on the subject. SMH

  • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    Why not just use your subscriptions? People use all and then act all entitled when they have to deal with everything. It’s weird.

  • AgentSeven@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    I just moved to lemmy.zip from dbzer0 and before that, world, mainly because I want to be the one blocking, I don’t want my instance to block for me. I must not be subscribed to the right places, because I just don’t see a whole lot of CCP/RUS apologia? I’m pretty good at passing over shit I know I won’t agree with though, so it might just not be registering.

  • StankStain@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    i’m new to my nstance that isn’t defederated from anything and I see an awful lot of whining about .ml hexbear and lemmygrad but i haven’t seen the users do anything. i’m more annoyed by the whiners so far.

      • raspirate@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        It feels like people are upset about running into users who are politically left-leaning… on federated social media.

        That’s like being upset about encountering queer people in the arts, or chuds in the weightlifting space, or conservatives at the gun range. What the hell did you expect?

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        “Tankie” is essentially a pejorative for those that support AES states. Tankies are everywhere on the fediverse, the reality is that so-called tankies aren’t the evil people that want to eat babies or anything like those loudly complaining about us believe.

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 month ago

          It’s my understanding that tankie refers to people who think of themselves as left-wing but actually back authoritarian states and make excuses for their war crimes and human rights abuses.

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 month ago

            All states are authoritarian. All states are monopolies on violence, in the interests of the ruling class of society. The major difference with socialist states is that the ruling class is the working class, while owning classes are subjugated by the authority of the state. Further, so-called tankies aren’t really concerned with excuses, but with dispelling bourgeois mythos. Information warfare is incredibly complex, and directed against anything that serves as an alternative to the dominance of western hegemony and neoimperialism, led by the dominance of finance capital and multinational corporations on a global scale.

            • Crashumbc@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 month ago

              If Tankies were anything like you’re trying to portray them. Then they wouldn’t blindly support Russia, China, North Korea which are dictatorships. They wouldn’t ban anyone who mentions tiananmen square or the China and Russian genocides…

              I mean who actually believes the working class in China (which doesn’t own anything much less the means of production) supports getting “scored” for their social standing… Lol

              • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                Tankies don’t “blindly” support the Russian Federation, PRC, and DPRK. Ask a tankie about what they support about anything you find odd or abhorrent. Tankies don’t even support Russia, just their movements against the present hegemonic system of US imperialism, which by opposing they help take the boot off the necks of the global south. The PRC and DPRK are supported, as actually existing socialist countries, but not blindly. Ask away and you’ll get nuanced answers.

                You aren’t banned for mentioning the 1989 Tian’anmen Square protests, nor the June 4th, 1989 Beijing Riots and suppression of said riots. You get banned for repeating now debunked atrocity propaganda about 10,000 students on the square itself getting killed, rather than the truth, which is that the hundreds that were killed that day, including dozens of PLA officers and a few hundred rioters, happened in areas all over Beijing as the PLA advanced towards the square. As for China and Russia’s genocides, not even western consensus agrees that these even exist. The UN doesn’t believe any repressions by China or Russia amount to genocide, and Wikipedia simply reports on the allegations, not taking a firm stance.

                As for China, the working classes own and control the state, which in turn controls and owns the commanding heights of the economy. Virtually all finance is state-owned, and all strategic industries such as defense, electric power, petroleum and petrochemicals, telecommunications, coal, civil aviation, and shipping are overwhelmingly state owned. “Pillar industries” such as equipment manufacturing, auto, information technology, construction, iron and steel, nonferrous metals and chemicals are largely but not as thoroughly state owned, and emerging industries are largely private.

                Private industry is allowed to assist with the socialization of production, developing the foundation of public ownership and planning. It’s very difficult to individually plan millions of tiny firms, but a few monopolies become very easy to plan, and folding them into the public sector turns them into public use. Markets create these monopolies naturally, and that’s how and why they are used.

                As for the idea of a social credit score, it doesn’t exist outside of a few cities, and is largely used for corrupt businesses. The idea of an Orwellian style credit score simply is fiction meant to scare you, when in reality the west has social credit systems like FICO that apply to every citizen, and dramatically impact what you can afford to do and how to live.

                Talk to a tankie sometime.

                • Crashumbc@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  Every Tankie I’ve run into on .ml has blindly supported all three, banned me for even mentioning things like the square, genocide, Russia being a dictatorship, China “social report card”… The list goes on and and they are consistently as cultist as MAGA lovers in the US.

                  So forgive me if having been on Lemmy for several years now. I call complete bullshit on your statement.

                • belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  I got banned for “inventing reality” after talking about the 2009 Green Movement in Iran and how a lot of Iranians don’t love their regime. Basing this on Iranians living in Iran apparently was akin to “inventing reality”.

      • RaphaelSchmitz@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        As somebody who was able to see those before they got defederated: If they’re not denying stuff like that Russia is the aggressor, then they have improved and the common conscious is just slow to forgive.

        It was “they must be trolls” levels when I still saw them. Pure ragebait levels. And you did often get the feeling that they were just trying to be as edgy as possible.

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        So called “tankies” supposedly everywhere, but all I see are left-wing people.

        Yes. Because “tankie” is just a pejorative for anyone to the left of the western Overton window

          • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 month ago

            Nobody in the year 2026 is using the word tankie in the context of the internal disagreement between British Trotskyists and Khrushchevists about the Hungarian uprising in the 1950s. Even you immediately - one sentence later - pivot to claiming it must means “authoritarian Stalinish stuff”, which is both incredibly vague and has nothing to do with the Hungarian revolution; a term that can be used for anyone to the left of the western Overton window.

            • TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 month ago

              I see why people block y’all. No. No one calls anarchists tankies. Confabulate as much as you want. It means what it means, and has meant since its inception. People like you, probably. And you fucking know it.

              • Toga77@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                Lol like everyone in here complaining and blocking, when you were presented with facts, your true colors came out.

                Softer than baby shit.

              • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                I see why people block y’all. No.

                Oh no! Someone disagrees with you! Better reach for that block button! That’ll show them.

                No one calls anarchists tankies

                Yes they do. All the time. Ask me how I know.

                Confabulate as much as you want.

                Go back to reddit

                It means what it means, and has meant since its inception.

                You don’t seriously believe that the word tankie, in this day and age, is only used to refer to people who support Khrushchev sending tanks into Hungry half a century ago. So you’re just undeniably being willfully dishonest now. And for what? What is the point about lying about this?

                People like you, probably. And you fucking know it.

                I was not born for several decades when the Hungarian revolt occurred and have no real opinion on it, so no, I don’t “fucking know it”, I know you’re fucking wrong, and are trying to cover that up with impotent aggression.

                • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  No one calls anarchists tankies

                  Yes they do. All the time. Ask me how I know.

                  You know because George Soros paid you to tell that lie probably!

              • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                No one calls anarchists tankies.

                Happens all the time, it’s a right wing/ center-lib tactic to sow division

              • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                Anarchists that support existing socialist states get called tankie all the time. “Tankie” isn’t an ideology or a species of human, it’s a pejorative for a loose grouping of those that like, say, China and Cuba.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 month ago

      but i haven’t seen the users do anything.

      It’s not the users people block over, blocking an instance doesn’t stop you from interacting with the users.

      What it does, is block every community from that instance from your feed, that’s it.

      People block .ml, because while some decent communities may exist, their admins will see your comments elsewhere, then find any/all comments on their instance and either harass you or ban you.

      The block just means you won’t accidentally stumble into a place they control.

      The minority of users who are really problematic, are likely to be banned everywhere else already

      • StankStain@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        People block .ml, because while some decent communities may exist, their admins will see your comments elsewhere, then find any/all comments on their instance and either harass you or ban you.

        I’m not sure what you mean. If someone harasses you then you can just block them. If you block an instance it’s users can still see your posts elsewhere and comment can’t they? I don’t politically align with the Lemmy devs but lemmy.ml is their instance and just like piefed, mbin, and others they can run their personal instance as they see fit. Isn’t that the whole point of federation?

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 month ago

          If you block an instance it’s users can still see your posts elsewhere and comment can’t they?

          Yes, I literally said that earlier in the comment you replied to…

          blocking an instance doesn’t stop you from interacting with the users.

          And…

          they can run their personal instance as they see fit. Isn’t that the whole point of federation?

          Yes, that’s why I don’t make posts that they need to change, I just chimed in and provided context for why blocking their instance so you don’t accidentally stumble into their places…

      • notfromhere@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        their admins will see your comments elsewhere, then find any/all comments on their instance and either harass you or ban you.

        Citation lemmy.ml admins do this please? Also isn’t this technically possible with every single instance of Lemmy?

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 month ago

          Citation lemmy.ml admins do this please?

          Their instance modlog…

          Also isn’t this technically possible with every single instance of Lemmy?

          It’s technically possible everyone ran an Epstein level child trafficking ring…

          It would be insane to investigate everyone equally instead of just the people we know are doing it…

          That should be obvious buddy

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 month ago

              So…

              First you said it was made up…

              I provided proof…

              So now it’s not made up, it’s just totally cool that it happens.

              You don’t see any issue at all with lack of logical consistency?

              • kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                you claimed that they do mod level moderation all over the place, deleting things they don’t like

                your “proof” was a mod enforcing the instance rules, which every good instance admin does.

  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    Amen brother.

    There are a few instances where like 90% of the problematic content and users come from. Blocking them makes the fediverse FAR more enjoyable and pleasant. And reduces the harassment and violent content by 90%

    Sane leftists need to shut out the insane ones. Those folks dont’ care about politics in any actionable way. All they care about is feeling superior to everyone else based on their theoretical beliefs and their weird cult of worship they have created with facts don’t matter and alternative history is the truth.

  • Shellbeach@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    I don’t see where you’re from, only your username, which I thought meant we were on the same instance. I’m on Lemmy.world, and i thought mine (our) instance defederated from .ml. So why do you, would have to block them? What am I misunderstanding?

  • wuffah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    ML is not far-left, it pretends to be in order to spread pro-Putin, pro-Russian, and pro-Republican state propaganda because they know it’s destroying America. ML and Russia are about as socialist as the Nazis claimed to be.

  • Pika@hikki.team
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    Experimenting with blocklists is fine and how you find your comfort zone on Lemmy.

    I once made an experiment in which I blocked lemmy.world - not out of spite, but to just see what the rest of Lemmy has to offer. Turns out, quite much!

    Still, too many niche communities are hosted on .world, so here I am again.

  • RockBottom@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    I find it very irritating when you want to change the world and insist on using only one particular instance. That’s not agitating the masses. I’m fine with blocking. I couldn’t stand any more Japanese comics and started blocking those users one after another. Constant dopamine.

  • lokalhorst@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    I think you will still see users from lemmy.ml despite the instance block. I have blocked it about 2 years ago and its the only reason why I am still here. I hesitated at first because of the open source communities, but then I thought, fuck it

      • OpenStars@discuss.online
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        It used to be the case that, aside from hexbear and Lemmygrad (both defederated from on your instance), 90% of the most trolling comments came from Lemmy.ml. However, immediately after Trump won the USA election, I started seeing that behavior all over the place. Perhaps that timing is mere coincidence, but regardless, blocking all users on that instance (which PieFed allows you to do) no longer works to keep the most batshit insane takes from my feed.

        Also I have consistently seen people commenting on that instance (and on Lemmygrad) about how proud they are that no does not mean no, but rather that they need to push forward harder - by making alts to mask their associations - and which they readily do.

        So I was adding historical context to your statement here: I see what you mean, now, but a couple years ago things were notably different. Then again, obviously not all trolls are the same, and trolls exist everywhere - which I should know, being one myself (as people keep telling me:-).

      • lokalhorst@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        I agree. I only mentioned it because your motivation was the list of blocked users from ml you already had.

    • Alex@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 month ago

      I joined the .ml server because it was the dev server. Looking at the communities I subscribe to most are on other servers. Occasionally people ascribe beliefs to me based on my home server but so far I haven’t bothered looking for a new home.

      When I first joined there were a bunch of popular instances that closed down so choosing a non-dev server seemed like a bit of a gamble. Same with mastodon servers.

      • lokalhorst@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        That’s something that is criticized often - that the devs are not independent but instead try to push their instance as the “main instance”. But yeah I guess there are a lot of people like you. Don’t forget there is no Karma system, it does no harm to change the account from time to time, I do it yearly.

          • lokalhorst@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            edit-2
            1 month ago

            The Lemmy software developers are the admins of lemmy.ml at the same time. Instead of being neutral, they push their questionable political agenda onto the instance. lemmy.ml is 8th now, but 3 years ago that was different. Also the most open source communities have been there, I don’t know really if that changed meanwhile.

                • lokalhorst@feddit.org
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  Without the context, it’s difficult to discuss. But I don’t see why we should favour one religious extremist group over the other tbh

            • notfromhere@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 month ago

              If you started a project, wouldn’t you list your server up top? The fact they changed it should tell you all you need to know. Also it’s their instance, they can do with it what they want. That’s like saying someone painted their house a color that is questionable. Block it and move on.

              Sorry I just don’t think it’s right to pass judgement on people for doing what they want with their project or instance especially when they designed it in a way that anyone can set up their own instance do do what THEY want with their own.

              • lokalhorst@feddit.org
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 month ago

                If you started a project, wouldn’t you list your server up top?

                You can bet I would. But when the participation in the project grew in the way Lemmy did, I would step down from my instance admin rule and pass to someone else. I am not saying they should unlist the instance, all I say is that the roles should not be mixed.

                Block it and move on.

                That’s what I did, but that doesn’t mean I can’t talk about the topic here.

                Sorry I just don’t think it’s right to pass judgement on people for doing what they want with their project or instance

                I can understand what you mean. The problem is that this constellation prevent Lemmy from growing because people are weirded the fuck out by the statements that are being made on lemmy.ml and especially the moderation strategy of the developers. I can recommend taking a look at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and sort by Top. Some of the stuff is about others members of the tankie triad and some is bs, but it quickly gets clear who you are talking to.

                • Alex@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  Hmm I see nothing - I guess the posts don’t federate back to .ml?

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    My lemmy experience got soooo much better once I blocked hexbear and ml instances. Kudos to you for your peace of mind.

  • eremophila@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago

    “Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist”

    Which country do you consider yourself a leftist in?