And when pulling it out from the mess of cables
I do tech support in a school filled with old computers all connected with VGA. One day I’ll hang myself with one of those.
Or when your’re trying to feed that fucker back through the passthrough on a desk.
At least they had screws? I dont trust HDMI or even worse USB-C. Still using VGA monitors with adapters, never broke a single plug.
I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop on USB-C/Thunderbolt. Don’t get me wrong - I think it’s a massive improvement for standardization and peripheral capability everywhere. But I have a hard-used Thinkpad that’s on and off the charging cable all day, constantly getting tugged in every possible direction. I’m afraid the physical port itself is going to give up long before the rest of the machine does. I’m probably going to need Louis Rossmann level skills to re-solder it when the time comes.
Edit: I’m also wondering if the sudden fragility of peripheral connections (e.g. headphones, classic iPod, USB mini/micro) and the emergence of the RoHS standard (lead-free solder) is not a coincidence.
On my Thinkpad the ports where both soldered to the mobo, unlike some random other USB daughterboard. Really annoying, on my T430 the port is a separate piece and can be easily replaces with a cable.
But no, USB-c is pretty tough for me, when done right. But its still too small for no reason in Laptops.
I sort of miss the screws too but it’s so much better when a cable accidentally gets yanked and it just comes right out instead of transmitting the force into whatever it’s attached to.
Tell that to the USB ports on my laptop.
do you live ON train tracks? how often is shit just falling out around you? usually a pretty cozy fit on most things imo 🤔
do you like the display port push tab? I feel like many of those are a PITA for real
Hate it. Though there is one that’s worse.
The mini-DP retention clip. There seems to be either wide and narrow variations or simply on-/off-spec variants.
Those clips just jam right in the back plate of the video card.
Good news, USB-C has two formats with screws: 1 on either side like VGA or 1 on top. Though I’ve never seen them in real life.
Why are you using VGA when DVI-D exists? Or Displayport for that matter.
Because VGA used to be a standard and all monitors I had lying around are VGA only
Kudos for not just trashing them.
Why should I? Full HD and working well, no reason to do so, new displays are 100€+ which is freaking expensive for that improvement
Because there’s plenty of used monitors to be had out there that have DVI on them in some capacity for very reasonable prices.
For instance I just purchased 4 x 24inch Samsung monitors for $15 USD each.
All those new video standards are pointless. VGA supports 1080p at 30Hz just fine, anything more than that is unnecessary. Plus, VGA is easier to implement that HDMI or Displayport, keeping prices down. Not to mention the connector is more durable (well, maybe DVI is comparable in terms of durability)
VGA is analog. You ever look at an analog-connected display next to an identical one that’s connected with HDMI/DP/DVI? Also, a majority of modern systems are running at around 2-4 * 1080p, and that’s hardly unnecessary for someone who spends 8+ hours in front of one or more monitors.
I look at my laptop’s internal display side-by-side with an external VGA monitor at my desk nearly every day. Not exactly a one-to-one comparison, but I wouldn’t say one is noticeably worse than the other. I also used to be under the impression that lack of error correction degrades the image quality, but in reality it just doesn’t seem to be perceptible, at least over short cables with no strong sources of interference.
I think you are speaking on some very different use cases than most people.
Really, what “normal people” use cases are there for a resolution higher than 1080p? It’s perfectly fine for writing code, editing documents, watching movies, etc. If you are able to discern the pixels, it just means you’re sitting too close to your monitor and hurting your eyes. Any higher than 1080p and, at best you don’t notice the difference, at worst you have to use hacks like UI Scaling or non-native resolution to get UI elements to display at a reasonable size.
Shaper text for reading more comfortably and viewing photos at nearly full resolution. You don’t have to discern individual pixels to benefit from either of these. And small UI elements like thumbnails can actually show some detail.
You had 30Hz when I read your comment. Which is why I said what I said. Still, there’s a lot of benefit for having a higher refresh rate. As far as user comfort goes.
Okay, fair point, sorry for ninja-editing that.
My display port cable has a clip that you have to press to remove.
Excuse me, I have a 3070 feeding into one of these bad boys.
why??
Poverty homies rise up, also I won’t turn down a free tv. I upcycled a few for extra monitors.
That doesn’t explain why you feed it with a 3070
I used to have to, when the monitor does not have any modern ports, you have to get creative with adapters.
Source: Me with my own 1050ti stuck into an optiplex build and early 2000s monitor because I was broke
All 3 HDMI ports are broken. That’s why it was gotten rid of, so I chain adapters with cables I have. Works like a gem. All of my monitors are upcycled. There is so much e-waste because people don’t use adapters.
wow that’s one hell of a dumpster find! even with those ports dead, a 3070 is worth like what, half a kidney?
nice!
hearing this makes me want to visit my local e-waste facility
That’s one advantage to living in the 21st century: computer “bone yards” and trash-picked parts are stupidly high quality “trash” compared to decades ago.
Don’t forget fucking bent pins… Urrggghhhhh
Can’t forget about leaving pins behind cause you pulled on an angle or worse, it was owned by a smoker and gunk built up on everything.
No worries, just eject the lead from a cheap Bic mechanical pencil, and use the tip to carefully bend 'em back into shape.
That’s brilliant! I just have a tiny pair of tweezers and needle-nose pliers.
i swear every time you think you tighten one of these evenly, they just end up like this!
Best part is when this sucker unscrews from the port and comes off with the cable:
Ugh this stresses me out just thinking about it
Kind of wish USB has securing screws sometimes …the amount of times I’ve accidentally caught a cable and yanked one out (oo-er)
Depends on the device I imagine. Way back in the olden days I remember pulling my NES along with a handful of games down from the tv stand because I caught a controller walking by. When Xbox introduced the break away cords it was a Godsend in our clumsy house.
Holy Diver!
also, both stripped somehow?
Retro problem? I used a DVI connector on my monitor until December last year.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it’s just thicc HDMI
Yep, you are retro
I still do. If it works, it works. Until my video card self-immolates, I’ll keep using it. Damn these modern infants and their cable endings! shakes fist at sky
>.>
DVI-D is basically HDMI with a large connector, so nothing wrong with it
“That’s when I realized the threads were stripped.”
Me struggling with cables: “why is god so strong?!” God: “I stopped caring about humanity, and started working out.” 💪
Am I the only one that never tightened them?
I tighten them and it saved my monitor! Robbers broke in to our house, stole a bunch of stuff. The computer monitor was still there, connected to the computer, dangling from the table.
How do I know they tried to steal it? Because they tried to cut through the cable with PAPER SCISSORS, because they didn’t know how to unscrew the cables.
I feel sorry for the dumb robbers. I hope they didn’t pawn it and are still enjoying playing Wii Fitness without the balance board, which they neglected to take with the console.
Oh wow, I didn’t see that coming. Screw-terminal cable connections are now the Manual Transmission of computer parts.
Probably not, there are plenty of people in the world
Left side: Unscrews from the standoff. Right side: Unscrews the standoff from the IO plate.
Every. Fucking. Time.
Video card manufacturers, why u no threadlocker?
Every time
I used to use locktite on my stand-offs.
Now there’s an idea.
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But seriously, why would you buy a VGA monitot in 2024?
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Get some HDMI to VGA adapters, the kind that screw into the VGA port and then have an HDMI port. I have a bunch of old VGA monitors I use with Raspberry Pis and as test displays when working on PCs and never have to deal with the annoyances of VGA since they’re basically HDMI displays now.
I got 4 1680x1050 monitors for 5€ each like 5 years ago and they’re still working perfectly fine
Cheap multi monitor setup gang here we go
I wonder if I can get an adapter to mount an old massive CRT to a monitor arm, and if any monitor arm has pistons that can support the thing in the first place.
CRTs are highly desirable for retro gaming.
Fighting games and the absolutely lowest possible video latency with the tech available. VGA puts you literally a frame or two ahead of the opponent. For players at their peak, this is a pretty big advantage.
Dont think the best vga monitors will beat current oleds in response times.
Using a gpu that still has vga will be a problem as well.
This happens because the connector is at an angle. Since it’s at an angle, the screw presses against the side and jams itself in place. All you have to do is tilt the connector the other direction and the tight screw loosens right up. Easy peasy.
This would have been really good for me to know about 20 years ago.
