Programmers are cooked.

  • TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world
    1·
    8 hours ago

    My direct experience is that, using chatgpt, making basic html DOM elements is simple, but coding behaviours in a reliable manner isn’t as simple. And css shouldn’t even need AI to be coded effectively. Javascript is the part where the ineffciency and the weird behaviour of a website are. I bet there are professional web design tools that use ai, but using genAI for that is…uh

  • 4grams@awful.systemsEnglish
    43·
    20 hours ago

    This goes back some years, back when the ping of death was still a thing. I used to hang out in IRC channels and someone decided they needed to show me what a real hacker could do. The dork asked for my IP which was hilarious to begin with, so I replied “127.0.0.1”. About 2 seconds later I see them disconnect from IRC.

    A minute goes by and they are back online, spitting mad. Tells me i’m lucky their computer crashed but I’d better get ready…and disconnected again.

    Back again and folks are dying laughing thanks to my 1337 teenage hacker skills but eventually someone spills that 127.0.0.1 is localhost. Instantly I’m talking to zero cool again and was too scared to give out my actual address. Being a hardened nerd, this time I complied.

    I was on slackware and had already figured out their game from the get go; oh and I actually knew how to find an IP. So right in the middle of this future titan of industry’s insults and threats…they disconnect one last time. 😎

  • BanMe@lemmy.world
    441·
    1 day ago

    As a web designer (well, customizer/reseller for small businesses) I definitely thought I was done for when I heard AI could spit out a functional website in one prompt. Then I saw some examples and realized it’s just going to be another thing clients bring me, begging for a fix. No problemo, small upcharge.

    • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
      201·
      1 day ago

      In one of my programming classes I watched a girl open edge, search bing for Google, then search Google for Yahoo, then search Yahoo for Yahoo Mail. It hurt my soul.

    • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      1 day ago

      In the really early days a guy who loved trolling before trolling had a name had a link on his website that just pointed to the users downloads folder. Really freaked out some people that clicked on it.

      • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.todayEnglish
        2·
        11 hours ago

        I made a Zip bomb, hid it, called it virus, and found the school OS reinstalled for what would have been a relatively harmless, and very basic trick.

        • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
          8·
          22 hours ago

          I hung in a sysadmins channel on IRC. There was always a new bug/exploit. So many there was never a shortage of ways to lock up or break a windows installation. They would just post random links and hope someone clicked on it. I always used lynx to look at them. It was fun and no one considered at the time using them to steal or rip off people with them.

    • maturelemontree@lemmy.zip
      12·
      1 day ago

      I made an entire website for my ship using notepad by frankensteining together other websites. Everyone on board thought I was a genius. How wrong they are.

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
      18·
      1 day ago

      Saw a generated site, but it just made up plausible image links and also went image heavy so it was a bunch of broken image icons as it linked to nowhere.

  • Azrael@reddthat.com
    31·
    1 day ago

    This was me in high school. In my first Intro to Computer Science class, they taught me how to make a website in html.

    Nobody told me that you need a domain. Guess how I found out.

    • ne0phyte@feddit.org
      15·
      1 day ago

      Well, technically you don’t need a domain. An IP is enough. If you don’t have your own IP (like a shared host) you’ll need to put it in a subdirectory but there is no need to have a domain to put something on the Internet.

      • Azrael@reddthat.com
        15·
        1 day ago

        Yes. My mistake. What I meant to say is that I didn’t realize you needed something to host the site on. I tried to send my friend the file and expected them to open it…from my computer.

        I was a bit of a noob back in the day.

        • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 day ago

          I had a similar problem in the late 90s except I was in my late 20s and a friend of mine got me into web developing. It took me a couple of weeks to realize I didn’t need to spend 30 minutes uploading my work via ftp over a 56K line to see the website. I could have just opened it up with a browser on my own computer. I wasted a lot of time.

  • ebolapie@lemmy.world
    36·
    1 day ago

    I gave Claude a shot at guiding me through an install of a matrix home server the other day. It got about halfway through before it absolutely shat itself. I mean like going in circles and completely incapable of breaking itself out.

    And that’s for a fairly easy sysadmin task. Not even doing it right, just doing it to the point where the service can be brought up and be accessible. I cannot believe anyone is under the impression that these bots are going to take anyone’s jobs. The only thing that’s going to “destroy jobs” is the rabid desperation management has to destroy labor.

    • rustyj@lemmy.world
      4·
      24 hours ago

      I did the same thing a few days ago, but I’m also pretty well versed with self hosting tedious-to-configure services. I would have spent hours rabbit-holing before setting up, and Claude just sped up the process.

      I spent most of my time researching and forming an action plan, arguably the most important piece. Within two hours I had a Matrix server stood up with element-web, as well as coturn for calls. Setting up Element-Call for groups took a little longer, but not terrible all told.

      I guess what I’m saying is if you’re experienced with a given task, it can be a really great tool to speed things along. If you want to sit back and have it run the show, you’re going to have a rough time.

    • OR3X@lemmy.world
      14·
      1 day ago

      Yeah that’s a common issue I’ve seen with Gemini and ChatGPT as well. They can do simple tasks but as soon as it’s something that requires more than a 5-6 steps, or if there are complications along the way they will get lost. Also ChatGPT will commonly just make up commands if it doesn’t actually know how to do something.

      • ebolapie@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 day ago

        I will say that after I went back to my normal usage pattern of going as far as I could alone and then asking the chatbot what went wrong it did save me a ton of time by suggesting I check whether caddy was importing from conf.d, which it wasn’t.

        I would have gotten there eventually, but not was it nice not having to hunt through snarky unhelpful forum comments on my own.

        • rustyj@lemmy.world
          2·
          23 hours ago

          I just did a long winded reply to your other comment before seeing this one. Seems like we landed in the same place! Hope the server is working well you

          • ebolapie@lemmy.world
            1·
            17 hours ago

            It’s been a good decade since I did any “serious” sysadmin tasks.

            I get to do it again because it appears we actually do want some features synapse supports that conduit doesn’t, door knocking being a big one. I also get to write user facing documentation as well; the “techy” person I enlisted to help me test the core conduit services got very frustrated by the onboarding process even with my handholding.

            I sound annoyed but I genuinely love doing this kinda stuff. I’m stupid, and figuring out where I screwed up is fun. Plus I get to make an onboarding webpage to explain things, which is gonna be loads of fun

  • chrizzly@feddit.org
    45·
    2 days ago

    This reminds me of a video where a girl was like “yeah so you know all that streaming stuff is so expensive? Thanks to AI I coded my own Netflix streaming site…”

    And there was this one comment like “Backend???” and she was like “Yeah I dont know what that is, but if you want a part 2 I can do that later” 😂

  • IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.orgEnglish
    911·
    2 days ago

    My boss sat me down recently and was telling me about how I needed to adapt because AI was going to take my job soon. Somehow it was suppose to be an inspiring meeting about my career growth. I just walked away blackpilled at the stupidity of leadership in the company. Oh yeah, we are 1 year into an AI adoption program and most people stopped using it 6 months ago due to it making them look like idiots with it’s mistakes.

      • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
        5·
        1 day ago

        I hate that word. I used a possessive apostrophe like this (its’) for years before somebody finally told me that rule doesn’t apply to its for some unknown reason.

    • tryagain@sopuli.xyz
      8·
      1 day ago

      I recently started and left a dev job after just over 2 weeks because the new boss was chugging the AI kool-aid. Luckily I got a late offer from another place I’d applied to and I was able to get the fuck out of there.

    • heartbreaker@sh.itjust.works
      37·
      1 day ago

      No hate, but I am relieved to switch back to Windows 10 after a year of Fedora. Partly because I need Windows for work, but mostly because Fedora and GNOME suck.

        • heartbreaker@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          14 hours ago

          Fedora:

          1. Missing Basic GUI Settings

          • Startup applications
          • No full shortcut customization
          • Need to install extensions for basic features
          • Media codecs missing by default (no clear indication or prompt)
          • You need to enable RPM Fusion (no prompt, hidden toggle)
          • Apps not installed via the software center must be removed via the terminal
          • Editing app menu entries through a third-party app (unstable / breaks frequently)

          2. Issues

          • Wi-Fi not working initially
          • Onboard GPU not working initially (and also no indication, noticed it in system monitor)
          • Couldn’t get the printer driver to work
          • GRUB menu became misconfigured
          • System stopped booting at some point

          GNOME

          (GNOME used in Fedora Workstation)

          1. UI Design

          • No app dock by default
          • App grid/selector sucks
          • No minimize button by default
          • Calculator results cannot be copied
          • Search resets when exiting search view
          • Thunderbird tray not working

          2. Customization

          • Cannot properly remap the Windows/Super key
          • Very limited ability to customize touchpad gestures

          3. Wayland / Mutter Compositor

          • GNOME uses Mutter compositor, which has no support for gtk4-layer-shell
          • Some apps, like Activity Watch, don’t work due to Wayland’s security philosophy