• acargitz@lemmy.ca
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    10 个月前

    I don’t understand. Does an instance hosted anywhere outside of this US backwater state have anything to fear from this? Why is Eugen being contacted all the way in Germany?

    • Rimu@piefed.social
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      10 个月前

      They’re primarily in Germany but there is some US presence too. From the join Mastodon site:

      Mastodon, Inc. (EIN 92-3333630) is a 501©(3) non-profit entity in the United States that supports the growth and operational capabilities of Mastodon, including being able to receive tax-deductible U.S. donations and in-kind support.

      Oops

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    10 个月前

    This is bullshit. It should be on mississippi to block the sites or require local isps to block them. The providers are on the internet and not going out to be in mississippi. Places should wall themselves off if they can’t handle the internet.

    • Prox@lemmy.world
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      10 个月前

      Or - hear me out here - it shouldn’t be on anybody to do anything because the law itself is garbage and should not exist.

      • IllNess@infosec.pub
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        10 个月前

        It should fall on the parents and ISPs should have an opt in option to block adult websites.

        But we all know this is more about control and data harvesting than anything else.

      • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 个月前

        But the question is, what would be a reasonable legal principle for preventing such laws generally? Mississippi is going to pass bullshit laws, but it shouldn’t be possible for the jurisdiction of any state to be anything on the entire internet.

          • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            10 个月前

            In those cases it seems like the law does prevent state level regulation of those things, because the state is only allowed to regulate commerce happening within its borders, not what its residents do elsewhere (although they can still also regulate the use of fireworks and airguns, but enforcement is more difficult, for instance where I am they sometimes send out notices in the mail warning that it’s against the law for individuals to be setting off fireworks but there’s always a massive decentralized fireworks show every 4th of July anyway).

            Somehow with the internet, the location of the server isn’t the thing that matters, it’s whose computer is accessing it and where that person and computer is located, and the liability is on the server not the user. IMO it should not work that way, because then every state with regressive politics has a stranglehold on the whole internet.

    • crank0271@lemmy.world
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      10 个月前

      You’re right. Imagine having to put more resources into Mississippi than Mississippi puts into anything.

      How would other countries have responded if instead of building The Great Firewall, China had demanded each international company not allow Chinese citizens within China to access certain parts of their websites?

      • HubertManne@piefed.social
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        10 个月前

        Yeah what you have at the end is sorta my thought line. You want to go all censorship at least get off your ass and do it yourself.

    • billbasher@lemmy.world
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      10 个月前

      I really don’t want ISPs policing internet traffic more than they already do. I think you’re right though. Router level second network filtering that blocks VPNs. Block the kids MAC addresses from the primary. This needs to be on parents.

      That same kid could go to a nudy video store and steal something. They could get into all sorts of 18+ physical stuff.

  • klu9@piefed.social
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    10 个月前

    Malicious compliance:

    • “Are you too old to have flown on the Lolita Express with Epstein and Trump?”
    • “Are you young enough to be employed as a ‘towel girl’ at the Mar a Lago massage parlour?”
  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
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    10 个月前

    Just go away with age verification. You are breaking the internet with this non sense. Eg. Providing passports will only cause exploits and leaks, with all its consequences.

    If you want to protect your children, then maybe the parents should protect them.

    • Joker@piefed.social
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      10 个月前

      The internet has been broken for at least a couple decades. The Fediverse is about the closest thing to the old internet.

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      10 个月前

      You are breaking the internet with this non sense.

      I think that’s their goal. Conservative types benefit when people have limited access to information

  • Skavau@piefed.social
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    10 个月前

    Have any of Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord implemented age-checks in Mississippi then?

    If not, why is Bluesky the only one going dark there?

    • stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net
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      10 个月前

      Bluesky is a small indie company. It can’t afford to fight the law or implement the extensive age verification the law requires. So it chose to pull the plug and leave.

      FB, X, etc, have a lot more resources to implement the extensive, invasive age verification Mississippi requires and keep fighting it in court until the decision upholding it is final.

      • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 个月前

        I’m of the opinion that even if it is final, at some points laws are so ridiculous they must cease to be effective for all.

        • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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          9 个月前

          Tbh my first thought was “ehh people can just vpn around it then” which is basically just saying its easily circumventable and i know no instance of legal issues for those that do.

          Still a net negative for that state though and the more laws and circumvemtion becomes more common the more people are thrown into the precarius class (see immigrants in the US now).

      • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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        10 个月前

        and keep fighting it in court

        > implying those neofash sites would fight against orders to tHiNk Of thE cHiLdReN

        • Vittelius@feddit.org
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          10 个月前

          They will if tHiNkInG oF the ChiLdReN threatens to meaningfully affect their bottom line

          • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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            10 个月前

            Why would it affect their bottom line other than positively? Corporations love fascism because it can make it mandatory for people to buy from them, among other things.