• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    How in the fuck would one do something like this and still consider themself a mensch?

    I was being rhetorical, but the answer is dehumanization, which is the height of irony considering how Israel came to exist in modernity.

    • Chris@lemmy.world
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      Israel is a product of European Colonization. It predates WW1 and WW2. After learning more about it, IMO it shouldn’t exist as it does today.

      Jews and Christians and Muslims lived in the area since the religions were invented, we don’t need a European colony to still exist.

  • Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 years ago

    Calling Israel’s apartheid “modern” to me kind of implies that South Africa’s apartheid, whose transitional period ended in 1994, was somehow “ancient” or “old-fashioned”… Yeah, you can rest assured that apartheid/segregation always has been far too modern.

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      2 years ago

      I was thinking about this recently and it won’t happen given the current climate but what Palestinians need is their own Truth and Reconciliation just like South Africans did. Codify that shit.

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    this combined with the orders from IDF that under no circumstances were celebrations or signs of joy allowed when prisoners were returned to their families; fucking ghouls.

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      Ted Kaczynski made a lot of really solid points, but bombing people, especially civilians, is wrong.

      People still cheer for Luke Skywalker though.

      Humans are more tribalistic than rational. They pick sides and justify later.

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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        The Death Star was a military installation that had already shown itself to be aggressive with death tolls in the literal billions. Not a fair comparison.

        • To be fair, Tarkin misused what was clearly a mining tool. Planets are too valuable a resource to blast into high-velocity debris. The Tarkin doctrine only works if Imperial policy is fair to begin with (which it isn’t) otherwise it is the reverse of common COIN theory (hearts and minds).

          Tarkin behaved stupidly and provoked a terrorist attack that successfully (and spectacularly) disabled a huge Imperial asset.

  • IceBerg@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Folks please, please go and google “Jewish population of hebron”. You are being fed lies and you’re eating it all up because you really want to cheer for the underdog.

    • Striker@lemmy.worldOP
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      I literally googled that and this was the top result.

      “Hebron is home to approximately 200,000 Palestinians, as well as 700 or so Jewish settlers. However, 20 percent of the city is under direct Israeli control, and Palestinians living in it, or passing through it, are subjected to checkpoints and a ban from travelling on several main streets, unlike the Jewish settlers.”

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        Yes! Exactly! There are 200 thousand people living in hebron and Seven Hundred of them are Jews. Who do you think lives in a ghetto there? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying these settlers aren’t assholes who may throw trash or rocks, I’m sure many other cities have communities of assholes. But making this out to be apartheid?! Come on.

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          200 thousand people living in hebron and Seven Hundred of them are Jews.

          But making this out to be apartheid?! Come on.

          Uhhhhhhhh… This is meant to be ironic or…? Yes, pushing members of a minority group to live in a specific city/area densely packed primarily by themselves which they do not govern… is apartheid. I could say “Look, only 100 white people lived in X neighborhood while 100,000 black people lived there in South Africa! How is that apartheid?” and it’d sound pretty ridiculous.

          • IceBerg@lemmy.world
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            Uhhhhhh… Hebron is mostly governed by the Palestinian authority. It is in fact their capital. Jewish people can’t really access most parts of the city. It’s actually pretty prosperous city which is what you get when you don’t devulge 100% of your funds developing terror infrastructure.