You might see a lot more simulcasting.
  • onlinepersona@programming.devEnglish
    71·
    1 year ago

    Twitch is trash. Everywhere I’ve been, 1080p isn’t stable. As soon as I switch over to youtube, 1080p works fine. And their stupid “loading stream UwU” screen when loading it on another page is just annoying.

    It also misses the absolutely basic feature or scrubbing - I can’t rewind or click back to a previous point in the stream - no. For that, the stream has to have recording activated, then you need to know of /videos on the streamer’s page, and finally you can open the “recording”. And because it’s a recording, you can’t “go to live”. It jumps back to the very beginning of the stream when it gets to the end “end of the recording”, which is whenever you opened it --> opened it 1 hour ago? Once it hits that point again, (no, not live - 1hour but live - 2 hours), it reloads and now you have to remember that it was live - 2 hours.

    It’s just shit.

    • nicetriangle@kbin.social
      4·
      1 year ago

      There’s no excuse for it being that bad either. The parent company literally runs one of the biggest cloud/CDNs in the world (AWS).

    • ryo@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Yeah it’s pretty stupid, I only watch twitch these days using streamlink + mpv so I can replay whenever I want, but only since the point it started loading. Plus you get less delay than the web with the —twitch-low-latency option.

    • Creat@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I watch a lot of twitch, probably more than I should honestly, and while the platform has problems it’s really not that bad. I rarely ever have issues with 1080p streams, honestly basically never. They don’t really ever buffer or stutter at all. So I don’t know where that issue is coming from for you. I can watch multiple 1080p60 streams in parallel just fine. Typically watching multiple perspectives of the same game, none of them buffer.

      As for the usability issues you mentioned to switch from live to vod, and back, that’s kinda fair. I also don’t think it’s all that bad, but it is somewhat inconvenient. You don’t need to type in ‘/videos’ though as you seem to suggest, you can just click on the channel name, then the videos-tab is right there that contains all ‘past broadcasts’.

      What the platform does right is discoverability and user interaction. If I wanted to watch live gameplay of some game, and I went to YouTube, I wouldn’t even know how to find streams of it at all. Also when following someone on twitch, I can be informed that he’s going live (notification or even mail), wifi im pretty sure it’s impossible on YouTube. User interaction is also just not there. I really wish other platforms were viable, cause competition eventually causes everyone to just do better, but nobody else seems to even tryn to take a share of their market…

    • Chozo@kbin.social
      0·
      1 year ago

      Well, the primary focus of the platform is the fact that it’s meant to be live, not on-demand. Everything else takes a backseat.

      • onlinepersona@programming.devEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I replay stuff all the time. Especially during live tournaments and a caster missed something, I scrub back to the point, watch it at a different speed, then hit live again. Or if I go to the loo and don’t want to miss an important fight, pause, loo, scrub back a little to the beginning of the fight, then hit live.

        It’s so basic. Any tournament organiser that’s twitch exclusive, I don’t watch and just wait for the highlights.

        • Chozo@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          I get that, because I’m the same way with my media consumption. But that just means that Twitch isn’t for you. There’s a whole market of people who appreciate the fact that if you missed something, you missed it for good, and that’s the primary audience Twitch is meant to serve.

  • Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    Ok cool, but they’ve done this once before, for all of a few weeks. Hopefully this time they don’t reneg or impose specific conditions.

    Now, can we please have a better codec for twitch? Sure I have NVENC now, but eventually Im going to have AMD card, and I want good codec support on Linux.

    EDIT: looks like there is a condition: no chat merging… Really?

  • jballs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    Makes sense from Twitch’s perspective. A few streamers signed non-exclusive contracts to stream on other sites. Twitch’s old policy was preventing those streamers from also streaming on Twitch at the same time, so they were losing tons of views. Now they get those people back.

  • oldGregg@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    So can you have a censored twitch stream and an uncensored concurrent stream on your website?

    Or like, follow the twitch guidelines and if you want a short segment of 18+ just put a text box like ‘too hot for twitch, subscribe on our website or wait for the twitch stream to continue’

    Gamer girl with a clean live stream on twitch, but watch it both on twitch and on separate website for an under the table camera POV.

    • Chozo@kbin.social
      2·
      1 year ago

      I love how the replies are so offended that sex workers exist. Real progressive, folks.

      • oldGregg@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I didn’t say it’s my thing I’m just saying if it’s allowed it’ll happen.

        I don’t watch live streams at all honestly.

        But can you not imagine like, someone doing standup and having a button they can push to pause the twitch stream while the 18+ joke continues on their website. Then when it’s done the twitch stream unpauses?

        Sounds like a win honestly

        • Sneezycat@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          02·
          1 year ago

          I didn’t say it’s my thing

          Kinda specific, talking about an undertable camera for a gamer girl, don’t you think? The example was absolutely unnecessary.

          • oldGregg@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Your comment was wholely unnecessary as well. This response is too.

            If you think of two concurrent twitch streams of one person, one consistently twitch friendly and one consistently a twitch guidelines strike, ran and operated by the same person. And in a way that both are profitable enough to be worth the effort. What exactly is the simplest solution? Because writing this is wordy and boring as hell, when I can just say face cam ass cam. I don’t have to dig it myself to know a market exists for it.

        • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Not OP, and not bothered by any fanservice stuff someone sells, but that

          a text box like ‘too hot for twitch, subscribe on our website or wait for the twitch stream to continue’

          that’s the thing I can’t stand.

          • oldGregg@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            It depends on how it’s handled for me.

            The YouTube channel Cold Ones will occasionally do a joke where one of them takes their ass out or something, and on YouTube it’s blurred out with a big ‘subscribe to our patreon’ for a few seconds.

            This would just be the live version of the same idea. I’d never pay for it myself, but if they allow it to exist it will. Though I’d imagine with a Livestream the dead air would be more annoying. Maybe instead cut to a POV of the camera operator’s reactions to the bit with a ‘SUBSCRIBE ELSEWHERE’ instead, or something else more creative

  • Bruno Finger@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Lol I didn’t know I couldn’t simultaneously stream. I’m not really a “streamer” but I did stream in the past using multi streaming tools to a bunch of different platforms simultaneously.

  • Sibbo@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    I thought that was allowed like a year or so ago. But I guess when they forbid it, it turned out to make less profit, so now they are back to before.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    0·
    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Big names like xQc, Amouranth, and Nickmercs have signed major deals with Twitch competitor Kick this year; xQc’s and Nickmercs’ deals are non-exclusive, and given that Amouranth has a video on her Twitch account from a couple months ago, it seems hers is non-exclusive, too.

    (He dined with Twitch CEO Dan Clancy earlier this month and seems pleased with Friday’s news.)

    “To further protect our streamers, we’re adding doxxing and swatting to the list of Off-Service Conduct behaviors we will enforce against,” the company says (emphasis Twitch’s), and the changes are in effect as of Friday.

    Guest Star, which lets streamers host co-streams with others, will now be named Stream Together and will be getting features like the ability to merge chats.

    Twitch says a version of its TikTok-style Discovery Feed that surfaces live channels is in testing.

    And Twitch’s own alerts system for notifications like subscribers and Bits donations will “soon” support a streamer’s custom animated emotes.

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