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Imagine a species surviving world war 2 and the Holocaust then still being pro-nazi. So fucking stupid.
A bad economy and uncertain future make people very afraid. It’s tempting to stick your head in the sand, blame all your problems on a specific demographic, then trust dear leader will punish the people that made you scared.
It’s completely divorced from reality, but reality sucks right now. People are scared. They’re taking the blue pill to feel better and pretend the horror all around them isn’t happening. They won’t max out their credit cards and become homeless. Dear Leader will fix things before that happens.
If this were a recent phenomenon, I would agree with you. But western fascism didn’t go away when the good times were rolling. It may have been quieter until recently, but these aren’t just scared imbeciles struggling through 21st century inequality.
didn’t kill enough Nazis and now they own all the algorithms.
You can blame all your problems on a specific demographic: the rich.
It’s always been a class war.
Food and shelter slowly become unaffordable, mass layoffs as large corporations automate, and the planet itself burns. All to feed the richest human beings who have ever walked the earth with more wealth.
Weekdays crushing the hopes and dreams of everyone on earth. Weekends at Epstein’s island. Monsters in human form.
you think they dont do the crushing from their phones at pedo island?
well, that escalated quickly. :,-(
In Germany, at least, those people aren’t even worried about the real issues, like climate change, but about made-up issues like the green party destroying our economy (they’re not), immigrants raping women left and right (they aren’t) and that we aren’t using nuclear energy anymore and are relying more and more on renewables (it’s not causing any issues and pushing down energy price)
I dunno, when I get worried about stability the last thing I want to do is start attacking other people and creating even more enemies. I get that it’s not so simple and not so instantaneous a choice, but still.
they care about certainty more than truth, so theres always a bit if disconnect.
you literally described fascism
needing certainty more than truth is pathological as fuck.
Imagine being so filled with hate that you sympathize with Nazis.
I can’t.
They don’t sympathize with nazis. They see fascism as a necessary evil to preserve their power, which they value more than even the continuity of the species or the well-being of their descendants.
It’s like the One Ring, you can argue you’ll use it ethically or to do good, but ultimately it means employing Ringwraiths to take care of those who might stop you.
That kind of feels like a distinction without a difference.
Read it this way: They don’t sympathize with Nazis, rather they are Nazis. More accurately, they’re what drives fascist movements of autocracy and genocide into popularity. They’re not just on the inside, but at the heart.
nor I.
and I’m really angry, so clearly it takes more than hate.
Less than 100 years. It’s pathetic. Bring on the nuclear winter.
You’re not getting out of climate change that easily.
Yellowstone supervolcano eruption?
If we’re going to carve it up and sell it off to private interests, might as well.
Eh, I live in the US where people still pine for the fucking confederacy because they love slavery and racism. Of course people are gonna keep the nazi hate machine going.
didn’t kill enough of em, I’m telling you. always the mistake.
It’s not like antisemitism prevented people from supporting the NSDAP (in many cases the opposite). Sure, when they were elected they didn’t know what to do with Jews yet, but antisemitism was one of the pillars of their philosophy (if the people are unhappy you have to take responsibility or simply point at someone and say “they are responsible, it’s their fault”) and antisemitism has existed since forever. (Of course there were not only Jews in concentration camps but they were initially made for them).
And sadly antisemitism still exists today in many areas of the world.
how fucked is it that my first thought on seeing that word was ‘ugh more hezbarah bullshit’ before remembering this is a thread about the other Nazis. fuck, they’ve denatured the word antisemitism.
Guess what they say is true: times change, people don’t.
Its horrifying when you look at the election results in Germany how many are voting for the so called Afd.
They are all fascists directly from the book and a leader of a county party of the AfD. He regularly uses Methpors from the NS Regime. You can call him a fascist on the street without it being as that is a fact according to a court.
And still, they got 10% in the last generall election 2021.
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love the choice of domain BTW.
fuck porn on main, let’s do main on porn.
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Weird it says “paused” and not “terminated”. I think there’s something wrong with my glasses, am I seeing it correctly?
Business is business
Nazis have money too!
Yeah, but “My Pillow and meth” money is very different from “new car” money
Well, the Swiss have it now, but the Nazis did loot a bunch of it from the corpses of their victims at one point.
Yes you did. They are just checking to see if their PR can handle it - capitalists have no problem with Nazism.
Fascism is the final defense against movements such as communism and socialism, given that it is what they turn to once there’s evidence there’s no good side to capitalism for the labor class (fair wages and civil rights always get rolled back; public-serving government is captured to serve the ownership class; upward mobility is sabotaged; etc.)
So it is impossible to be capitalist without anticipating fascism at least in the future. And while ethical capitalists exist who treat their workers relatively well and avoid unethical sourcing or production, they’re much like ethical kings, in that they are the exception and are replaced with less-ethical owners. Even Gabe Newell will die or retire or be bought out.
In the end, the Musks and Zuckerbergs and Bezoses are like the Fords and Disneys and Bushes (and Busches) who are like the Rockefellers and Carnegies and Morgans, who all are glad to see the labor class languish in Great Depression era living conditions while they restore absolute autocracy. And they’d rather die, themselves, fighting to keep their assets, or watch it burn rather than give it up for a better, livable society.
In the end, the ownership class will tremble before communist revolution. The only alternative is extinction, or destruction of the environment that precludes population large enough for mass infrastructure.
Nazis gotta get to the lynching somehow. What do you expect them to do? Walk!? /s
It is shocking that they waited this long.
is the word you were looking for ‘disappointing’?
because yes.
Pause? Not Canceled?
Maybe waiting to see which side comes out on top. Kinda like Volkswagen. (Yes I know I didn’t exactly happen like that)
I think it’s kind of like how politicians “pause” their political campaigns when they concede. Technically they could come back to it, but almost certainly won’t.
Also, for better or worse, pause tells X “if you figure out how to fix this problem we might come back.” Canceled says “go find someone else who is cool with Nazis.”
Having that financial incentive dangling in a string might be more motivating for X to change. If they don’t change of course, the net effect is the same as canceling.
Pauses…they’ll probably be back once this blows over.
Yeah, I’ve seen variations of this headline a million times. Tbh while I certainly approve of not giving Elon money, at this point I can only think moves like this as performative actions to get some free good PR.
I forget x is Twitter and took me a while to figure out that X isn’t a car model of Hyundai
X is a single letter most commonly used as a variable in algebra and other math courses. Also commonly used for loops when writing code.
Hyundai wouldn’t be dumb enough to name one of their cars a single letter. Even back when Toyota had the Scion brand, they named their models the xA and xB, because naming anything a single letter is fucking retarded. Do we not have language in our society still? Must we revert to monke and just make single syllable noises?
I say, companies all around should start rebranding as single letters. Apple will be A. AMD will also be A. Samsung S, Starbucks also S. This would be hilarious to show how dumb Elon is.
X was a window system for Unix-like operating systems long before Elon Musk decided that would be a good name for the social media platform he bought.
yeah I’m gonna grab my h brand magic wand but its weirdly sweet and soft and tastes really good.
why dont we have gummy sex toys that vibrate?
Bit late to the party, must be a combination of language barrier and declining effectiveness of ads on a dying platform.
I don’t imagine that the people over at Hyundai Motor America have a hard time with English. This was merely not knowing/caring until it became a problem.
I’m operating under the assumption that the US Headquarters have to listen to the SK Headquarters, but who knows what goes on behind closed doors.
Not saying Hyundai America doesn’t listen to Hyundai Global, but if they have to wait for Global to pull an ad then there are some serious management issues.
I’m not saying the decision has to come from global, but a decision from global would explain why the decision came so late.
it’s a meme in the marketing community to ask “what’s the ROI on brand awareness”
there is no demonstrable “effectiveness” - you’re just ensuring that enough people know your brand.
By that exact metric Twitter is declining. Less twitter users, less engagement, less return on investment for ads on the platform. That said, the decline is only something like 360M to 330M over a few years, not a huge deal.
A caveat to this is most ads go through an automated bidding process similar to Google’s advertisement, and the companies only pay per ad seen by a user.
Gee, who ever thought there would be racist content from a site owned by Apartheid Boy? And of course, he probably denies it exists in spite of clear evidence to the contrary. He literally defamed the Anti-Defamation League when they called him out on him jerking it to his Nazi fantasies. Then I think he cried to his mommy, who looks like the Bride of Frankenstein.
hey, his mom is hot. I think most of us with an interest want to fuck someone who looks like his mom. and I think he should know that.
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A clsssic!
I’m sure this is a given reason.
I can’t help think posting ads on a platform owned by the head of a rival car company just as that company is tanking out and desperately flailing around to improve sales might be inadvisable for a whole host of reasons, though.
“paused”
Yes paused long enough to post their complaint.
I expect they will increase the number of ads when they resume.
Hyundai executive notices a man with a small moustache being hastily ushered out of the X offices main board room.
Hyundai Executive : “Was that Hitler?”
Elon steps in front of board room door : “That wasn’t Hitler, that was a woman.”
Hyundai Executive : “That looked like Hitler.”
Maybe that was Girl Hitler.
Why not both?
Tap for spoiler
Hopefully you feel regret and not arousal.
Where were they a year ago?
Seems like they only care about sharing the stage with Nazis when it might hurt them.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Hyundai confirmed the pause in a statement to NBC News late Wednesday and said it was taking its brand safety concerns to Musk’s company.
“We have paused our ads on X and are speaking to X directly about brand safety to ensure this issue is addressed,” Hyundai said in the statement.
Joe Benarroch, head of business operations at X, confirmed the Hyundai pause in an email Thursday in response to questions.
Benarroch also said a Holocaust-denial post that appeared adjacent to a Hyundai ad would get a label as violating X’s policy on “violent event denial.”
The recent Hyundai ad in question ran on the profile of a user who has defended Nazi leader Adolf Hitler and pushed antisemitic conspiracy theories.
Another X advertiser, IQAir, said it was adjusting its settings on the platform after NBC News found one of its ads running adjacent to Holocaust denial.
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IDK, I like the crypto ads, it’s good practice to figure out how they’re trying to take my money.
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