Not mine, but feel it’s the proper type of thing to be shared.

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    They better give this guy a full cavity search on his re-entry to the u.s. he’ll probably has a couple of Russian spies inside his cavernous asshole.

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    I’m so confused. Thought out all our wars, we’ve had journalists go to the country we’re fighting and interview our enemies. Why is it now a bad thing?

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      Because this asshat isn’t a journalist. He makes shit up and spins it how he’s paid to. He has zero morals, zero integrity, and is less reputable than the boy who cried wolf.

      There’s been plenty of leaks of him flat out lying on Fox. Combine that with Putin also being a lying psycho, and there’s really no good or truth that can come from this interview. Only propaganda and misinformation.

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      People are downvoting you, because they fail to see the reference to Tucker Carlson always being mock confused about even very simple things and making that stupid fart-smelling face.

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      I’m so confused

      Yes, you are. The rest of us are not. Putin is an enemy of free people and Carlson is a traitor.

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      It’s like when YouTube influencers get invited, all expenses covered plus pocket money, to a sweatshop in China, given a guided tour showing all the utterly happy workers and absolutely fantastic work conditions.

      And said influencers then return home and gush over said sweatshop, don’t disclose the paid expenses and perhaps even dunk on real journalists that infiltrated the company and collected evidence for months (the real case I’m referring to: https://www.npr.org/2023/06/30/1184974003/shein-influencers-china-factory-trip-backlash).

      I’m happy when actual investigative journalists report from Russia, but those tend to live dangerously and won’t get interviews with the regime’s higher-ups or the tyrant himself. Media in Russia are under complete government control, so Tucker even getting that interview is a clear tell.

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    Neville Chamberlain met with Hitler and judged him based on their one-on-one conversation. Chamberlain trusted Hitler based on this personal meeting and infamously predicted “peace for our time”.

    Winston Churchill had to judge Hitler based only on his actions, because he never met Hitler personally. Churchill did not trust Hitler.

    Less than a year after Chamberlain’s one-on-one meeting with Hitler, Hitler invaded Poland and began WW2.

    Sometimes it’s better to judge people based only on their actions as seen from afar.

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      Reminder that even if Hitler had decided not to invade Poland, Chamberlain “trusting Hitler” abandoned Czechoslovakia, one of the most fortified and industrialized nations in Europe.

      It is not simply possible, it is a certainty that Britain, Poland, France, and Czechoslovakia could have defeated Hitler’s Germany in 1938, a year after the opening of the first concentration camp.

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        Yeah there were multiple times when the allies could have pushed Germany over before they started steamrolling. When they remilitarised the Rhineland, as you said when they occupied the Sudetenland, and even when they invaded Poland.

        France started pushing into Germany once war was first declared and there was basically nothing in front of them. Most of the tanks etc were in Poland. If they had continued pushing then it might have all ended there. Instead they pulled back to the Maginot line and the rest is history.

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          Frances problem was they were still trying to fight WW1. The Maginot line would have been really effective in 1917

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            It would have been effective in ww2 too. However they trusted that the Belgian will defend their short borders, and not surrender like in ww1.

            Belgium however did not even really notice the Germans running through their country. Then Belgium surrendered since the Germans were already going through their country and they had no chance of winning any fight (also France did not give them any real support against Germany).

            Once in France the Germans mainly ignored the Maginot line or attacked it from the back where it was almost not inforced.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    The hysteria we see now reveals that westerners lack confidence in their narrative and thus feel compelled to suppress Russian media and prevent interactions between citizens of their countries and Russia. In contrast, during the Cold War, people felt secure enough in their system not to be swayed by what they might hear from the other side.

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    I watched his video about this. Came off to me like he is disregarding the fact that Russia is attacking Ukraine and more acted like it somehow a mutual war where there was no other option than to fight each other. Like dude, the difference is, if Russia stops fighting everything goes back to nornal. If Ukraine stops fighting, they fucking won’t exist anymore.

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        To add to what others have already answered, if Ukraine accepted such a “deal”, more war would be coming to Europe.

        • When Russia still falsely assumed they could destroy Ukraine in just weeks, they were already prepared to march right through into Moldova (there’s ample reporting from mainstream and non-mainstream publications an internet search will reveal)
        • Intense propaganda is currently aimed at Europe’s right wingers to seed distrust and destabilize Europe and to form positive opinions on Russia
        • Hungary is controlled by a pro-Russian far-right dictator, Poland just barely teetered back from the brink
        • Germany’s fascist party wants “Dexit,” (and “Brexit” was a Russian undertaking, too). Yes, pro-Russian far-right parties again, both. Same old.
        • Russia is working with Republicans to pull the US out of NATO and destroy America from the inside out (surprise, another pro-Russian far-right party)
        • A heavily Russian-influenced billionaire bought Twitter and allowed unchecked government propaganda from Russia under the guise of free speech to aid in the previous undertaking.

        I have every reason to believe that Russia will just move on to the next target and that things would be far worse in Europe already if Ukraine wasn’t keeping a large portion of Russian resources aimed at them.

        Also consider that any time Russia offered a ceasefire (such agreements were accepted several times), they always used it to safely rush supplies to the front lines and broke the ceasefire immediately after, often just hours after it was instated.

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        I guess just war until the Russian colonisers are expelled, putting an end to the imperialist invasion. Stop the expansionary push to exploit weaker, foreign countries. It’s pretty clear-cut.

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        So when I show up to your house with weapons and force my way in, it’s totally reasonable for me to whine and complain when I tell you I only want to take over your bathroom and you don’t like that deal? Or will you shoot me dead (or call the cops to do so) unless I leave?

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      That’s pretty unlikely unless he’s doing a big pivot in his branding, he quite literally has said the US should team up with Russia to fight/oppose China.

      Carlson’s dissenting line on Ukraine policy has to be understood in light of his obsession with fighting China. As he outlined back in 2019, his dim view of Washington’s Russia strategy came from the fact that he viewed China, not Russia, as “our main enemy,” and that “the United States ought to be in a relationship with Russia aligned against China to the extent that we can.”

      He reiterated this point three years later: because “China is the preeminent threat to the United States,” and because it’s impossible “to engage meaningfully simultaneously in Europe and in Asia,” the US focus on Ukraine only “detracts from our attention to China,” while at the same time pushing Moscow “into an alliance of convenience of necessity with the Chinese government.”

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tucker-carlson-isn-t-an-anti-imperialist-he-s-a-rabid-china-hawk/ar-AA1atnj3

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        “the United States ought to be in a relationship with Russia aligned against China to the extent that we can”

        Sad to say I agree with the broken clock, as China is truly a bigger long-term threat… but never to the extent of appeasement or allowing Russia to invade other countries.

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      That would be great, I see no issue in journalists interviewing anyone. The converse is MSNBC that literally wouldnt show a trump speech for some contrived reason.

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        The converse is MSNBC that literally wouldnt show a trump speech for some contrived reason.

        That reason being they are under no obligation to give airtime to fascist insurrectionists? (or anyone at all, really) I don’t watch MSNBC, but is Trump going to say something that’s going to suddenly change my mind about him? We’ve already determined that his supporters won’t change theirs no matter what he does, so they didn’t really need to see it, either.

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        You think dictators aren’t controlling every single aspect of the interview? It is a glorified publicity stunt.

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          You think presidents arent controlling every single aspect of the interview? Putin was not going to make Tucker disappear if he asked the wrong question.

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            Psh, Putin would Merk Tucker for looking at him wrong. Do you have any idea how many journalists Russia has put down?

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              Putin can kill as many journalists in russia as he wants, if he disappeared on of the top 5 most popular journalists in the US, that would be an international incident.

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          He shouldnt be, but the media sucks so bad that he is now one of the most influential journalists. He actually questions things, as opposed to the shameful journalists we have now.