• Daqu@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Business class costs 5x economy, first class is 10x

    I would have to work months to be more comfortable for a few hours. Nope.

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      6 months ago

      The truth is.If you have first class money you have money to get your own plane and go anywhere without babies crying.

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        6 months ago

        This isn’t true at all… My wife and I fly first class and are no where near being able to afford flying private 🤣 the no babies part would be fantastic though.

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            5 months ago

            It’s ma’am! 🤪 And huge difference, like $1000 for first class domestic, compared to $10,000 per hour for private domestic minimum or memberships that are $100k+ just to join.

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        6 months ago

        I compared AA flights from NYC to Paris on Google flights. Those were the real prices.

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        No, it’s expensive but not “private plane” expensive. I rode first-class international once because I was recovering from covid and didn’t want to deal with the pain of coach (and the travel company that was responsible for my getting covid was paying some of the bill). I’m also 6’4" and don’t physically fit in coach. So like, yeah, I’m being physically forced out of coach cause it’s too small and I have to pay out the ass to just exist on a plane without physical pain. Must mean I have my own jet, and not that I’m getting fucked.

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    6 months ago

    “People don’t want to pay what you’re charging so you should drop the price”

    AA: “No”

    Repost to scare an economics 101 class.

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    6 months ago

    Inequality has gotten so much worse that rich people don’t even fly in the same planes as us anymore.

    That’s going to have perverse incentives on airplane safety too. They have no reason to update their laws if peasant airplane doors falling off becomes common.

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      I have a friend that is a sales manager for private planes. He said business exploded during the pandemic and then never slowed down. This despite flights being eye-wateringly expensive (like, 20k for one-way is a great deal, because you managed to book an empty leg.)

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      6 months ago

      Perception has also become completely warped.

      I was out with some guys last night and one of them was talking about a PJ for a golf trip. I didn’t know what he was talking about so I kept quiet. I used to travel extensively for work, usually on the company plane so I’ve spent a good amount of time on planes all by myself with the pilots, so my Buddy who invited me to this outing started asking me questions about what it’s like flying private and I figured out pj means private jet.

      The guy talking about using a private jet is a fireman. I’m sure he makes a nice living but what fucking world do public service employees use or even think they should be using a private plane to go golfing? I don’t even get the idea of flying somewhere specifically to go golfing, that seems like rich people shit, hiring a damn plane for it? How the hell did that even become a consideration?

      Eta. I’m not shitting on public service employees. This guy probably makes more money than me and for sure has a better retirement plan LoL. I’m pointing out that this guy doesn’t work in finance, real estate or an industry that you might more typically expect to be familiar and using private services along those lines.

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    6 months ago

    Who exactly are they eliminating? Their customers or international first class tickets? Or maybe both?

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    I’ve flown on AA’s international business and first class. The difference is negligible in terms of the seats and most people in them were complimentary upgrades since they couldn’t fill the seats.

    The bigger differences were on the ground with the dining and check in. So all AA is doing is creating a “Business Plus” category that gets you the first class amenities on the ground and then a business class seat. This lets them put more business class seats on the plane and open things up to a bigger revenue stream.

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      AA first has been a joke for a long time. It was an ever so slightly better seat and they served one extra course - a soup - but was otherwise identical to business class service. You can’t charge thousands more for soup.

      First class has been dying for years - and the only airlines that will do it, it’s really a prestige thing more than a profit center.

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        AA is the last United States based airline to even have one. This move is an industry-wide trend now that lie-flat business class seats are standard. Business class has gotten much nicer in the past 10 years and taken away the customers that previously would have flown in first.

        I’d rather fly Qatar qsuites or many other si-enclosed business class seats than the first class ones remaining on European airlines like British Airways, Lufthansa, of air France. And doing so is a fraction of the price.

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          BA, agree, AF, not a chance. La Premiere is much much nicer than even qsuites. LH is somewhat plane dependent, but the FCT is fun.