Have you tried pspspsing the cat ?
Nchmchnch works too
I prefer pshpshpsh
Genuine question: why can’t the train just start? Best case, the cat jumps off. Worst case, it dies through its own fault. Is there something else? Is the presence of the cat on the roof a safety issue?
This could lead to traumatized customers and a bad image as heartless company.
(or be a total win if the cat stays on top and became the new mascot; but guess they don’t want to take the risk)
I think your answer is probably the most plausible compared to the others. It’s a public image issue. That makes sense.
Even if killing cats for any reason, either deliberately or accidentally, is legal in the UK there are still two potential problems with starting the train: Terrible PR when the story gets out and opening your company up to potential civil litigation from the cat’s human as well as anyone else traumatised actually witnessing or contractually obliged to participate in (e.g. Driver) said death of cat. In summary, your brand takes a hit and you may lose money. As an added bonus a late train is less newsworthy in the UK than a funny cat so by delaying the train you might even generate good PR at no cost.
Those are all fair points. Still unfortunate that it’s still down to money even in your explanation, but it makes sense.
Bad take after bad take from you. SMH.
Yeah because them killing the cat is going to play sooo well for their reputation.
I just really don’t think that they would care. It’s easier to spin it as, “We didn’t know the cat was there, what a tragedy” than to appease all the passengers who are now late and frustrated.
Lol I really doubt that.
Why do you hate train drivers so much!?
A small delay for a single train, on a network of thousands, is not enough for the “evil train company” employees, that you seem to think that they all for some reason.
The world isn’t quite as black and white as you seem to believe it is!
One, it’s not the train drivers calling the shots here; the train drivers (like all employees) are stringently controlled by management.
Two, it’s not “hate” to observe that companies just don’t care about ethics and well-being. I thought most of us agreed on this, even the company executives themselves: when ethics conflict with profits, profits are always the higher priority.
Three, this isn’t what “black and white” means.
The train company might not care about ethics, but they’re gonna care about PR
So you think it’s acceptable to kill an animal so people aren’t late?
Should the cat know better? I’m not sure cats comprehend timetables.
No, I don’t think it’s acceptable. But my question wasn’t about me, nor about ethics. There’s no way a train operator with a timetable cares about animal well-being or any other question of ethics. I’m curious what the real reason is.
My assumption is our laws don’t allow endangering animals, so perhaps they don’t care from a moral standpoint but they will care about repercussions from the law and also the optics of it.
Also, if you’ve never been on Uk trains, we don’t need a reason for them being late. They’re oft late.
Why on earth would a train operator care about timetables over basic ethics? They are human beings, not robots, you know?
The controller and driver both get paid either way, and I’m sure the train driver is used getting home late on occasion - and I expect they get overtime pay, so he may well be laughing anyway.
And the controller, or whatever they’re called, will just be seeing it as a PR issue. The slight lost money on the refunds (that passengers actually bother to put through) is easily worth the good PR.
Edit: Missed random words, impatient brain running too fast for fingers.
I do applaud your optimism. Wish I could have that same rosy view. Unfortunately company executives have shown time and again their true motives. You are of course correct that they are not robots; however, studies do show that they are disproportionately psychopathic compared to the general population, and the behavior of companies often reflects that quite visibly. Profits and the interests of stakeholders always take priority over basic human decency. It would definitely be refreshing if that is not the case here.
You’re missing a fundamental part here. The company execs are not the ones deciding whether to delay a train with a cat on the roof.
That’s the driver and conductor, who are paid hourly or salaried. The execs don’t even know there is a cat on the roof.
Maybe they don’t want to kill the cat?
I would love for that to be the real reason but I severely doubt that it is. I’m curious about the real reason.
Imagine having to call your boss and tell them you’re late for work because of some random cat.
Imagine having to cat call your boss.
For crying out loud, throw water at it.
As Denmark’s queen abdicated and Frederik X became (hopefully our last) king, I was forwarding this in the family group chat with the comment “more important things are also happening in the world right now”
21 MAY 2021:
Delays and cancellations to trains between Manchester and London due to ‘overhead wire problem’ Trains may be delayed by up to 90 minutes or cancelled
The name of that cat? “Wire”
Jesse, for the last god damn time, it’s copper
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I did this as a bus driver. Homeless people would fall asleep and not wake up. We weren’t allowed to touch them. So I would go outside the bus and smack the window. 99% of the time the jumped up.
If you’re talking about the end of the day and you need everyone off the bus, ignore this post.
However, if you’re talking about regular day operation and you’re trying to remove someone from the bus who is doing no harm, then you’re an asshole. They have it hard enough already, leave them alone.
So the driver should just go to the depot, lock the bus up at night with the person fast asleep inside? At some point, paying passengers have to leave the bus.
You don’t understand how bus driving works. The end of the run doesn’t mean you stay and do the same thing all day long. You routinely need to deadhead to another spot and it may be the only time that they have to eat or use the restroom. And then it gets eaten up by someone sleeping and not reacting to the calls on the intercom or anything else.
You don’t understand how bus driving works.
Given that I’m not a bus driver, that’s not a massive shocker. Despite, my point still stands. If you need to get someone off the bus because you need everyone off the bus, my post doesn’t apply. In all other cases, if you’re just bothered by the presence of a homeless person among all the “regular” passengers, then you’re still an asshole.
or just start moving the train slowly? surely the cat will realize they’re in a bad spot and jump off
The cat was dangerously close to being electrocuted, so I guess inciting panic was avoided on purpose.
