I really don’t like Elon musk and I am convinced that he cares little about anyone but himself. He is a liar and a fraud. His Morals are clearly 100% motivated by profit. He seems sexist and classist.
Trump is obviously classist and seemingly racist (the difference between racist and classist isn’t always so obvious)
I really really don’t like both of them.
But I don’t think Elon did a salute. To me, (especially as he did it twice) it seems like he moves his hand to his heart and then “throws” it out to the audience. Would be on brand for Zuckerberg, very alien. But “innocent”. I guess, you could argue that it is a dog whistle and he wants deniability.
Honestly, It doesn’t matter to me. A bad man is a bad man.
Look, I get it mistakes happen. If a reasonable person had done something that might have given the wrong impression, they would have been like “sorry that was not my intent, I apologize to those that got offended”.
This is not what Musk did AFTER being called out.
So, fuck this. This was a Nazi salute. Don’t believe the gaslighting.
Okay, hear me out. What if the apartheidist xenophobe far-right suck-up with the media machine that front-pages Nazi shit on the regular… what if his arm just did that?
He certainly sucks up to far-right parties. If that should have been a salute then I am honestly shocked by the poor execution. Someone can be a horrible person without all their motion to be motivated by their horrible nature. Sometimes they are weird. And don’t tell me Elon is not a fucking weirdo too.
Video evidence of him throwing a Nazi salute; side-by-side comparison of him and Hitler throwing the same salute; he’s boosting the fucking NAZI PARTY in Germany, but i don’t think he means it, guys!
Oh I believe he is a racist and a classist. The execution is just so horrible that I don’t believe that it was. Could you share the video with me? That could help me to see what you see. I have seen many documentaries (it is a popular topic on German tv) but I just don’t currently see it. It is not like I studied how exactly Hilter did the salute.
I agree but it isn’t how you do a “proper” “Hilter salute” either. I am just saying what I am seeing and I am making no claims that he is doing that. It is in my opinion like I say a very alien motion.
if you dont mean to defend/apologise for musk. why did you even take the time to write this?
As a german who studied the ns-regieme a lot in their life let me (and pretty much every expert on that issue who commented on that) tell you that this is a clear nazi solute. not greatly executed, the führer would have been dissapointed, but it features all the elements to that salute. as i suspect elon has a pr team, and ‘educated’ himself on the holocaust in Oświęcim, id say it is impossible he didnt know and accidentally mimiced it in that detail.
I also know a lot about the NS Regime. For similar reasons than you, I assume. The execution is so bad that I just don’t believe it is. But I am happy to admit that I am not aware of the connection between the event and Oświęcim, without assuming that it was a salute. Could you explain that to me, please?
I really don’t like Elon musk and I am convinced that he cares little about anyone but himself. He is a liar and a fraud. His Morals are clearly 100% motivated by profit. He seems sexist and classist.
Trump is obviously classist and seemingly racist (the difference between racist and classist isn’t always so obvious)
I really really don’t like both of them.
But I don’t think Elon did a salute. To me, (especially as he did it twice) it seems like he moves his hand to his heart and then “throws” it out to the audience. Would be on brand for Zuckerberg, very alien. But “innocent”. I guess, you could argue that it is a dog whistle and he wants deniability.
Honestly, It doesn’t matter to me. A bad man is a bad man.
Look, I get it mistakes happen. If a reasonable person had done something that might have given the wrong impression, they would have been like “sorry that was not my intent, I apologize to those that got offended”.
This is not what Musk did AFTER being called out.
So, fuck this. This was a Nazi salute. Don’t believe the gaslighting.
Okay, hear me out. What if the apartheidist xenophobe far-right suck-up with the media machine that front-pages Nazi shit on the regular… what if his arm just did that?
It has been known to happen.
He certainly sucks up to far-right parties. If that should have been a salute then I am honestly shocked by the poor execution. Someone can be a horrible person without all their motion to be motivated by their horrible nature. Sometimes they are weird. And don’t tell me Elon is not a fucking weirdo too.
Video evidence of him throwing a Nazi salute; side-by-side comparison of him and Hitler throwing the same salute; he’s boosting the fucking NAZI PARTY in Germany, but i don’t think he means it, guys!
Oh I believe he is a racist and a classist. The execution is just so horrible that I don’t believe that it was. Could you share the video with me? That could help me to see what you see. I have seen many documentaries (it is a popular topic on German tv) but I just don’t currently see it. It is not like I studied how exactly Hilter did the salute.
It was in another of the many threads discussing this topic. I’ll link it if i can find it.
Hey,
Someone posted this comment. Is it this video? Thanks for your effort!
https://leminal.space/comment/13052692
That wasn’t the one, but it gets the point across.
Oh ok. Thanks for your effort! Have a nice day!
Your mental gymnastics are Olympic class
Which mental gymnastics? Seriously, please point them out to me.
That’s not how you throw something though
I agree but it isn’t how you do a “proper” “Hilter salute” either. I am just saying what I am seeing and I am making no claims that he is doing that. It is in my opinion like I say a very alien motion.
if you dont mean to defend/apologise for musk. why did you even take the time to write this? As a german who studied the ns-regieme a lot in their life let me (and pretty much every expert on that issue who commented on that) tell you that this is a clear nazi solute. not greatly executed, the führer would have been dissapointed, but it features all the elements to that salute. as i suspect elon has a pr team, and ‘educated’ himself on the holocaust in Oświęcim, id say it is impossible he didnt know and accidentally mimiced it in that detail.
I also know a lot about the NS Regime. For similar reasons than you, I assume. The execution is so bad that I just don’t believe it is. But I am happy to admit that I am not aware of the connection between the event and Oświęcim, without assuming that it was a salute. Could you explain that to me, please?