• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    So you’re an authoritarian bootlicker who can’t tell the difference between defending free speech vs spouting hateful speech.

    I’ll defend a Nazi’s right to say their hateful shit. I’ll also gladly plead guilty to an assault charge over beating their ass for it.

    They shouldn’t fear the government for their speech. They should fear physical retaliation from their community.

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      4 hours ago

      That’s the problem with the internet, really. You can’t punch these a-holes through your monitor or keyboard. The consequence here is moderation instead of physical violence. Removing these people from their platform is the punch in the nuts that they deserve. It’s still free speech because these are non-government websites.

      Edit to make it less mean sounding.

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        Exactly, which is why this should be handled by the platforms as they choose instead of by government requirement. If you don’t like how a platform moderates content, don’t use that platform.

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        Considering this moderation is often done in cooperation with government censors, and the executives working at these platforms are often former government, the lines are blurred enough that I don’t support it.

        We need more legal blocks to prevent the government from getting around the constitutional protections by coordinating with corporate third parties.

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      Like so many others, you’ve mixed up general society with law enforcement. We defend the right for the Nazis to say their piece without being imprisoned. Running a business profiting from letting Nazis publish their speech is a choice, and not a necessary one. Using and supporting the social relevance of a social network that voluntarily publishes hate speech for profit is a choice, and not a necessary one.

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        3 hours ago

        A social site doesn’t publish anything, it’s just a medium for users to communicate.

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        4 hours ago

        And that’s exactly what the user you’re replying to has been saying all along.

        This post is about the UN, as in, a governmental authority. The whole discussion here is that moderation isn’t something for the government to do (outside of prosecutable crimes), it’s for private entities to do. Meta can moderate its platforms however it chooses, and users can similarly choose to stop using the platform. Governments shouldn’t force Meta to moderate or not moderate, that’s completely outside its bailiwick.

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          Meta pushes opinions, advertisements, and engagement. The government can and should regulate their bullshittery. Our privacy has been violated along with our rights.

          Your view of these platforms and what they do is completely disconnected from reality. They are advertising platforms that are used to influence elections not a “platform for speech”.

          You can’t ignore the reality of what they have already done and we are past pretending it is in any way altruistic.

          There is no moving onto other platforms when they they use their profits to buy up all their competitors. You can look at the current dating site situation to see how without government regulations monopolies have formed.

          Your hands off approach is unetainable and also ignores that other free countries have things like anti-hate laws and they are doing way better than we are.

          The solution is to fix the government and then regulate the hell out of these fuckers. This is the way.