That doesn’t make much sense. With a single piece of info, your phone number, I can learn hundreds of things about you. It’s one of the most linkable identifiers out there.
Every chat platform has some sort of unique identifier, other than SimpleX.
Of course, which is why its super-important that the id not be linked to your real identity.
Here’s a test: I’ll give you my matrix id, and you give me your phone number. Deal?
They still require a phone number to sign up, and its a US domiciled company (5-eyes country), so its inherently unsafe. The obama administration issued an average of 60 national security letters every single day of his administration.
If your answer is “I don’t think signal is giving my phone number to the US government”, then why do you have to “trust” signal to not do that? Actually private chat apps don’t ask for identifying information like phone numbers, then say “trust us”, like apple or something.
Yes, that is well documented at this point. What I’m waiting for you to explain is how this compromises your privacy or security.
and its a US domiciled company (5-eyes country), so its inherently unsafe
The 5 eyes is an international data-sharing agreement. They cannot share what they do not have. So no, it’s not.
The obama administration issued an average of 60 national security letters every single day of his administration.
I don’t doubt it. Those NSLs would have returned zero information from Signal because, as Signal has repeatedly demonstrated, and I have repeatedly stated, they don’t have any information to share.
then why do you have to “trust” signal to not do that?
I don’t have to. As I’ve explained several times now, there is nothing to trust them with. I give them a phone number. I give them zero information along with it. Not my name, email, birthdate, nothing.
If you have any actual evidence to share, or any kind of argument I haven’t already debunked I’m all ears, but it sounds like your entire argument is predicated on conspiracy theory, which I’m not interested in entertaining further.
I don’t doubt it. Those NSLs would have returned zero information from Signal because, as Signal has repeatedly demonstrated, and I have repeatedly stated, they don’t have any information to share.
Part of the stipulation of NSL’s, is that its illegal to disclose that you’ve been issued one. You are gagged, and you can’t even criticize that gagging publicly, or you will face criminal charges. You can read more about that here: https://www.eff.org/issues/national-security-letters
Not my name, email, birthdate, nothing.
Your phone number is already linked to all that info. I, even as a private person, could type in your phone number right now and get all that information about you in seconds. So you can stop saying “my phone number doesn’t have that information”, because it 100% does. And signal stores it as their primary identifier.
Again, if you really believe what you’re saying, you’ll give me your phone number, and the phone numbers of your friends. If this is a secure identifier, that contains none of the information above, then why not? Put up or shut up.
That doesn’t make much sense. With a single piece of info, your phone number, I can learn hundreds of things about you. It’s one of the most linkable identifiers out there.
Of course, which is why its super-important that the id not be linked to your real identity.
Here’s a test: I’ll give you my matrix id, and you give me your phone number. Deal?
I don’t understand what that has to do with anything. Yes, you can learn all kinds of information about you but you cannot learn it from Signal…
Lets use your favorite privacy app to communicate. Give me your phone number.
No phone number necessary (anymore).
https://signal.me/#eu/62su5fsZZ63Lr0MlnpgAo7hyVt5Mz1JpO6tKBbadGCLEQJgzLdNAW5LDArwDZKvX
They still require a phone number to sign up, and its a US domiciled company (5-eyes country), so its inherently unsafe. The obama administration issued an average of 60 national security letters every single day of his administration.
If your answer is “I don’t think signal is giving my phone number to the US government”, then why do you have to “trust” signal to not do that? Actually private chat apps don’t ask for identifying information like phone numbers, then say “trust us”, like apple or something.
Yes, that is well documented at this point. What I’m waiting for you to explain is how this compromises your privacy or security.
The 5 eyes is an international data-sharing agreement. They cannot share what they do not have. So no, it’s not.
I don’t doubt it. Those NSLs would have returned zero information from Signal because, as Signal has repeatedly demonstrated, and I have repeatedly stated, they don’t have any information to share.
I don’t have to. As I’ve explained several times now, there is nothing to trust them with. I give them a phone number. I give them zero information along with it. Not my name, email, birthdate, nothing.
If you have any actual evidence to share, or any kind of argument I haven’t already debunked I’m all ears, but it sounds like your entire argument is predicated on conspiracy theory, which I’m not interested in entertaining further.
Part of the stipulation of NSL’s, is that its illegal to disclose that you’ve been issued one. You are gagged, and you can’t even criticize that gagging publicly, or you will face criminal charges. You can read more about that here: https://www.eff.org/issues/national-security-letters
Your phone number is already linked to all that info. I, even as a private person, could type in your phone number right now and get all that information about you in seconds. So you can stop saying “my phone number doesn’t have that information”, because it 100% does. And signal stores it as their primary identifier.
Again, if you really believe what you’re saying, you’ll give me your phone number, and the phone numbers of your friends. If this is a secure identifier, that contains none of the information above, then why not? Put up or shut up.