That take is rank fucking idiocy
Did you expect some kind of mass uprising to happen the very next day? A hundred million people out in the streets, all armed to the teeth, hunting CEOs for sport?
In this cartoon fantasy world of yours, what does “something coming from this” look like? Was his next stop going to be the White House where he would hold Biden at gunpoint until M4A is implemented?
Calm down, Emily Gilmore.
Americans have been sold the “we need to defend our freedom” slogan for so long they forgot the “most powerful” army in the world is sponsored by the regular american to defend the rich against himself (the regular american) How can an uprise happend in the US if you guys gave your government all the power?
Class wars are generational.
Yeesh friend, kinda jumped down OP’s throat here, no? Seems pretty uncharitable to go from their posted meme to “this cartoonish fantasy world of yours”, and then take that even further.
I mean, OP never really described any kind of “world” at all, just expressed disappointment. So I mean.
…it’s kinda your cartoonish fantasy world, by definition, isn’t it? Whatever thing you’re imagining here? Weirdly hostile take.
Yeesh friend, kinda jumped down OP’s throat here, no? Seems pretty uncharitable to go from their posted meme to “this cartoonish fantasy world of yours”, and then take that even further.
Uhm, are we looking at the same comic? Because it most definitely is making an assessment of the impact of the shooter’s actions. What’s the thing being impacted? I would say world. Charitable interpretation seems to me to point in the opposite direction of what you’re saying.
You’re defending a stranger who went hostile and attacked the poster of a meme in a place for memes. Spend your time however you like, I just can’t imagine how you or the original commenter I replied to are able to take the littlest stuff - posted to a JOKE community - and extrapolate out (AKA invent) a bunch of serious takes, and then disagree with those fictional takes. The OP posted almost nothing, to a meme community. What y’all are doing is Don Quixote stuff (or more accurately, straw man bullshit), but like I said, spend your time however you see fit.
You’re defending a poster who posted a meme that wasn’t very good.
Spend your time however you like, but you’re spending a lot of time on this to be questioning how other people spend their time
Clever reversal bud, sure got me.
Good. Now go be better.
Agreed, OP’s post is what they WANT you to say— don’t help them out guys
Honestly my only hope is… that the lone gunman suicidal “I want to go down in a way to be remembered” kinds of shooters. Learn from this, and consider shooting a wealthy CEO instead of a school or movie theatre etc…
I in no way want more violence… but I believe it would be nice if the “we can’t do anything about” violence, were more top of the power chain instead of bottom.
Realistically, if all the school shooters start going after CEOs instead (I certainly wouldn’t complain if they did) you’d very quickly see gun violence go from “unsolvable” to “very solvable”.
So… you’re saying
Oh no no, my friend. If the wealthy being gunned down results in gun control, it won’t be for them. There will be some kind of exemption for private security that will be extremely expensive to get. Those wealthy enough will be able to find ways of sourcing their own if they want one. We’d be the ones without guns in that scenario.
I think you’re actually underestimating our dystopia. Private security/military already exist to the scale that the, literal, “war” aspect of a class war would make actual arms mostly irrelevant. I think at that point it’s just a numbers game.
Numbers are a very large part of that particular game.
This already exists.
In New York wealthy business people pay small town sheriffs to deputize them. As deputies they now have a right to concealed carry, even in places like NYC that have very strict gun laws.
I hate that this is a thing.
Is that too much to ask?
We’re protecting them from unnecessary care.
What kinda fuckass McDonald’s worker calls the cops on a folk hero? This is why we will continue to be curb stomped by the boot.
Somebody who needed $60k for medical expenses.
A well trained, well beaten dog.
An economic Uncle Ruckus. They train us from birth to see shame in not being wealthy, it sadly works. Some of our economy’s victims internalize their own dehumanization and see it as the natural order to report on their fellow inferiors to their betters.
The same people mourning BriBris loss by hilariously trying to shame everyone for not condemning his murder while conveniently ignoring all the people he murdered through policy, and whose policies murdered people yesterday, and will today, tomorrow…
economic Uncle Ruckus
The rich man provides us with meaningful work and purpose and we throw it back in his face by unionizing and wanting to take more of his money! We nasty poors must follow the rich man’s example and one day we may be as cultured and decent as he is.
Praise the rich man and his benevolent ways!
Yeah, very well beaten… I was talking about Luigi at work today (EU person here) and when I said it is a young guy from a wealthy family, one dick stood up and said “oh, so it was just a spoiled kid?” And there’s probably much more people like this around me.
The difference between a wanted murderer and an unsung hero depends a lot on how much, and which, media a person consumes.
I like to assume the average person is apolitical and pays only a passing glance at headlines.
That’s just it though, the “passing glance” types that don’t pay much attention to anything at all will just assume the truth is whatever headline runs across their “feed of choice” the most often. Usually from large corporate outlets.
Pretty much. It’s a tired analogy, but the “unawakened” people in The Matrix come to mind. They’re not helping the cause, but it’s not right to declare that they’re evil or deserve hate like OP was suggesting.
They don’t know any better but that doesn’t mean they deserve ire. They’re reasonably reacting based on the information they have.
Pennsylvania disappoints again
First, another fucking Pennsylvania McDonald’s getting involved where it shouldn’t. I’m done eating at McDonald’s in Pennsylvania now.
But I wonder if this was intentional. Now we all get to hear what he has to say. Hopefully he turns out to be a leader.
When did a Pennsylvania McDonald’s get involved before?
From context I’m assuming Pennsylvania is where Trump did his Maccas stunt?
Ohhhhh, haha okay.
Just stop eating at McDonalds in general. There are equally as pricey but healthier and tastier burger joints out there (or both). Check out your local restaurants; they’re likely on par in price.
That douche bag CEO isn’t gunna get his life back and so on top of the reviews we got:
- One dead asshole, hell yea.
- That one company rolling back their decision to charge even more for anesthesia.
- A whole lot of people learning even more about how fucked up healthcare really is.
- A bit of an uptick in class solidarity
- One step in the right direction.
Shut the hell up, is what I’m trying to say.
FYI they only rolled back that change in one single state. The change will still happen in other states.
Sounds like we need 49 more adjustments.
But that requires more Luigis
Well I have some kinky shit I wanna get into before I go to prison.
It gave us a tiny fleeting look into a world where a united working class has power and outnumbers the ruling class.
This is far from over, this pot is about to boil
All that happened? Did the CEO use scroll of resurrect or something?
They punched another one out of the bubble pack.
They were gonna but the corporate necromancer was out of network.
Just kidding that’d be way too much effort for how they see human lives. They were likely hitting up LinkdIn before the body was cold.
No, the company used “appoint some other asshat to do the exact same shit” (or if they hasn’t yet they soon will)
“The last guy got killed in the street for doing this shit, you’re going to do the exact same shit right?”
It’s like the mustache-twirling movie villains when an underling gets merc’d for a hairbrained strategy:
“Congratulations, number 3. You’ve been promoted! Go get 'em!”
It hasn’t even been 24 hours yet
Someone mentioned how the first time there was a school shooter, everyone took note. And now we have school shooters. It’d be interesting if this became a thing.
Jesus christ that’s…amazing.
Is that true? I just checked the reviews for all of the McDonald’s in Altoona, Pennsylvania on Google Maps [4] and none of them have been review bombed recently or have any mention of the UHI shooter [1][2][3].
References
- Location: “McDonald’s” (407 E Plank Road, Altoona, Pennsylvania, 16602, United States of America). Reviews. Google Maps. Google. Accessed: 2024-12-10T00:47Z. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald’s/@40.4797644,-78.4645832,26488m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb916b8c57b971:0x43e52d4d43c7f597!8m2!3d40.479696!4d-78.402451!16s%252Fg%252F1tgn5qg6.
- Location: “McDonald’s” (1500 9th Avenue Station Mall, Altoona, Pennsylvania, 16602, United States of America). Reviews. Google Maps. Google. Accessed: 2024-12-10T00:47Z. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald’s/@40.4797644,-78.4645832,26488m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb923d0c3d4ce5:0x1befd9ef70a8fcf4!8m2!3d40.5115673!4d-78.4017286!16s%252Fg%252F1260fmzqb.
- Location: “McDonald’s” (406 E 25th Ave, Altoona, Pennsylvania, 16601, United States of America). Reviews. Google Maps. Google. Accessed: 2024-12-10T00:47Z. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald’s/@40.4797644,-78.4645832,26488m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb91e1fbd1d469:0xc40981aecec5b3a8!8m2!3d40.5352995!4d-78.4020828!16s%252Fg%252F1tfrhr7m.
- Search. Google Maps. Google. Accessed: 2024-12-10T00:44Z. https://www.google.com/maps/search/McDonald’s/@40.4797644,-78.4645832,26488m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1.
If you’re willing to believe a couple of random news outlets:
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/altoona-mcdonalds-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare https://www.ibtimes.com/altoona-mcdonalds-flooded-angry-1-star-reviews-after-arrest-suspected-unitedhealthcare-ceo-3754683
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/dec/9/altoona-pennsylvania-mcdonald-reviews-go-negative-/
Not hard to imagine thag G**gle would be on the case, deleting reviews by now.
If you’re willing to believe a couple of random news outlets:
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/altoona-mcdonalds-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare https://www.ibtimes.com/altoona-mcdonalds-flooded-angry-1-star-reviews-after-arrest-suspected-unitedhealthcare-ceo-3754683 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/dec/9/altoona-pennsylvania-mcdonald-reviews-go-negative-/
Thanks for the sources! I wish that news articles would actually cite how they know things — it’s annoying to me that their statements regarding the reviews are essentially conjecture — I don’t want to have to feel like I need to just take their word for it.
I wish that news articles would actually cite how they know things
Yep. When I actually started reading some news articles and quickly found out that I was on my own if I want to learn more or verify what I just read, really put me off that stuff.
When I actually post something informative, it seems crazy to not include the links I already have anyway. And make sure it’s viewable in the wayback machine if it’s something so predictably ephemeral…
When I actually post something informative, it seems crazy to not include the links I already have anyway. And make sure it’s viewable in the wayback machine if it’s something so predictably ephemeral…
Citing sources is a practice that I think is sorely lacking in public discourse currently. I appreciate all efforts to quell misinformation and disinformation.
Their reputation and past reporting is supposed to back up things they state as facts (like assuming that reviews they cite are real) for practicality and brevity. Imagine having to document every bit of background research in a presentable way.
They could have included screenshots though.
And the skepticism is healthy. I do personally ‘trust’ Axios (which I read almost daily but regularly double check).
[…] for practicality […]
Imagine having to document every bit of background research in a presentable way.
Well, presumably, that’s their job [1]. Being responsible takes effort /s.
References
- “Journalist”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-12-10T06:50Z. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:47Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist.
- §“Roles”. ¶1.
A reporter is a type of journalist who researches, writes and reports on information in order to present using sources. […]
- §“Roles”. ¶1.
- “Journalist”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-12-10T06:50Z. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:47Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist.
[…] for […] brevity. […]
I don’t agree that citing sources affects that. For example, anecdotally, a citation can just take the form of a footnote in the document.
Not hard to imagine thag G**gle would be on the case, deleting reviews by now.
Fair point.
This one has a review posted 12h ago with 800 upvotes mentioning a rat problem in the kitchen:
Good catch. Given that that it’s currently still available [1], I would guess that it’s likely not the case that Google is purging reviews. Imo, one review is hardly review bombing, but at least that’s proof of one claim made by a news outlet [2] (It’s terrible, imo, that we have to be the ones fact checking claims being made by news organizations. Doesn’t that make us the journalists?).
References
- Author: Casper van Dujin [To: “McDonald’s” (1500 9th Avenue Station Mall, Altoona, Pennsylvania 16602, United States of America). Google Maps. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald’s/@40.5115673,-78.4017286,1189m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb923d0c3d4ce5:0x1befd9ef70a8fcf4!8m2!3d40.5115673!4d-78.4017286!16s%2Fg%2F1260fmzqb.]. Reviews. Google. Published: ~2024-12-09T18:00Z. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:22Z. https://www.google.com/maps/reviews/@40.5115673,-78.4017286,1189m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!14m5!1m4!2m3!1sChdDSUhNMG9nS0VJQ0FnSUN2OHJpQXFRRRAB!2m1!1s0x0:0x1befd9ef70a8fcf4.
- “Altoona McDonald’s review-bombed after CEO shooting police tip”. Author: “Jason Lalljee”. Axios. Published: ~2024-12-10T05:00. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:27Z. https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/altoona-mcdonalds-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare.
- ¶3
Users left reviews for at least three McDonald’s locations in or around Altoona, Pennsylvania, with dozens of people leaving one star ratings and complaining about “rats.” Others more explicitly called out “snitches.”
- ¶3
- Author: Casper van Dujin [To: “McDonald’s” (1500 9th Avenue Station Mall, Altoona, Pennsylvania 16602, United States of America). Google Maps. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald’s/@40.5115673,-78.4017286,1189m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb923d0c3d4ce5:0x1befd9ef70a8fcf4!8m2!3d40.5115673!4d-78.4017286!16s%2Fg%2F1260fmzqb.]. Reviews. Google. Published: ~2024-12-09T18:00Z. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:22Z. https://www.google.com/maps/reviews/@40.5115673,-78.4017286,1189m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!14m5!1m4!2m3!1sChdDSUhNMG9nS0VJQ0FnSUN2OHJpQXFRRRAB!2m1!1s0x0:0x1befd9ef70a8fcf4.
This is just the beginning ☝🏼
I don’t think Lemmy is the right place for sharing the anti-semetic Happy Merchant caricature.
Cmon she cute just look at her bro. Don’t be stingy and give her some money.😭
Jesus, we have genocidal anime girls now?
Implying we didn’t have them before
…and a cold dead CEO responsible for stealing our money and leaving us to die. You left that part out.
which accomplish nothing , unless as a reaction, people act and do something about billionaires rulling the world. one star review bomb wont cut it
which accomplish nothing
Seems to have accomplished something. What are you doing about it? Trying to stir shit up from abroad I assume. How about you fuck right off and let us deal with it.
It sends a message and that message was heard. Rolling Stone and probably other outlets, published an article talking about the collective disdain that the working class has expressed in the wake towards the healthcare industry—a hatred that reaches across aisles. It’s a tiny reminder that the working class outnumber the ruling class. Don’t rule out more things happening. People get inspired.
Then don’t stop shooting them until everything gets better.
Oh it did! I’m actually surprised (positively) about the vast social-media response.
A surgery that my little one needed was being denied by insurance two weeks ago. Yesterday when calling for the pre surgery instructions we were notified that last surgery was approved. So we were doing all three requested surgeries at once and only having to put her under once.
I don’t know if this was the cause but there was a 180 on the approval.
Insurance companies behaved themselves for a few days. That’s already saved lots of lives, making the whole thing balance out as a positive.
I’d be banned by the admins for suggesting how this momentum could be kept going.
This is ml. I don’t think violence against the rich or jury nullification can get you a ban
On .world is absolutely can and will.
Their account is on lemmy.world so I’m not sure how it would be treated. We, however, are not.
* ahem *
Rhetoric: down with the bourgeoisie, eat the rich, sodomize the land-owners, impale all people who have more than 25 reál in their pocket, literally murder all human beings regardless of their political beliefs.
I think that the instance admins can’t ban their users in other instances communities or delete their comments. But the is one of this things that is weird about federation.
You really think this is over? Columbine was a shocking, once in a lifetime event when I was in middle school. By the time I was in college, school shootings were a fact of life. The only difference is that people weren’t rooting for school shooters. They may have caught this guy, but a new era of gun violence is just getting started.
Let’s watch how hard gun control gets pushed when the barrels are aimed at the puppet masters.
Fellow lefties: If it’s safe for you to do so, acquire, train, and responsibly store. That is all.
Let’s watch just how nice conservatives are to their reps when someone puts gun control on them.
I’ve kinda always wanted to see it.
I mean, someone literally drove up to one of their softball games and tried to kill them all, and they still didn’t support gun control. It won’t be until the majority of their billionaire oligarchics tell them it’s OK that they’ll start supporting it.
That guy failed. It makes a big difference when they actually get killed.
Sure, Congress will act, but the Supreme Court has spent the last 15 years making sure that even the most moderate, milquetoast gun reforms get struck down. I know the current Justices are hypocrites that make a mockery of precedent, but considering they’re the ones that created the precedent (particularly Alito, Roberts, and Thomas), it’s going to be hard for Congress to write a gun control law that doesn’t force several Justices to either strike it down or invalidated their own opinions.
A constitutional amendment isn’t impossible, but I think the NRA would still have enough juice to prevent Congress from reaching a two-thirds consensus, and definitely enough to stop three-quarters of states from ratifying it. The billionaire class has spent a lot of money making gun control extremely difficult, and I think that’s about to bite them in the ass.
The only way they’ll get rid of most of the guns is by searching property to property. Many won’t comply with unconstitutional bans. And they don’t have the agreement to change the constitution about this. Too fucking bad, the working class will remain armed. I wish ammo hadn’t gotten so expensive though.
LOL i hope he he they throw away the key
This meme is astroturf propaganda to try to discourage the working class. There are plenty of stories of insurance companies reversing their decisions and approving procedures that they had denied the day before, or not going through with plans to reduce coverage.
That is what happens when the 1% are reminded that they are outnumbered 99 times, and that those with nothing to lose have nothing to fear.
Yep. This never depended one the efforts of one person. It’s going to take all of us working together, and filling in where we’re needed to do our part.