I’ve not been banned myself, I’m just curious.
Is it akin to getting banned from every community on the instance, but the users profile is still visible from accounts on that instance?
Or is it akin to the user getting entirely “defederated” from the instance they were banned from?
I’m not sure. Whoever responds first should reply to me so I get the notification, too. I’m curious.
If user A from instance 0 is banned from instance 1, then they can’t post on any instance 1 posts
but on instances outside of 1, they’ll still be able to interact with instance 1 users as far as I’m aware.
Pinging as asked:
@sbf@feddit.orgBut why would a user for example: @CDRMITTENS@sh.itjust.works who is instance banned from my home instance, have their last posts available to be seen by me from 7 months ago, but if I look at their profile from my LW alt, I can see they have a bunch of newer posts.
It’s almost like their new posts are “defederated” from my home instance.
The posts they make are in a federated community with my home instance. I’d bet if they replied to this comment, I wouldn’t see their reply. (assuming this comment is even visible to them).
It’s almost like their new posts are “defederated” from my home instance.
That part is odd and I don’t really have a good guess or assumption as to why that’s happening.
The posts they make are in a federated community with my home instance. I’d bet if they replied to this comment, I wouldn’t see their reply. (assuming this comment is even visible to them).
As far as I understand the system; banned users shouldn’t be able to make comments on a home instance their banned from unless something is broken or has been deliberately been changed.
What I mean is I can’t see any of their posts they’ve made in a shitjustworks instance since their ban from my instance, even though my instance is federated with shitjustworks
I did get that, I just don’t understand as to why that’s happening; maybe a federation error?
All I know is that instance defederation on lemmy has a similar error. Sometimes communities are still visible as “artifacts” (not often though).
For example blahaj defederated from lemmygrad one year ago, but I can still view !ukraine_war_news@lemmygrad.ml (but posts from after the defederation don’t show up)
Huh in that case I wonder if both instance and defederation works by sort of pausing/suspending the new content updates.
Sort of like how Newpipe works is that new content could be available on your home/sub feed but won’t show up unless explicitly updated (by swiping down). Although for this analogy to work, banning would be equivalent to a filter/block in Voyager although it’ll only work for newer content?🤔
That’s my new guess anyways, not sure if it’ll help!😅🤗
I think you’re onto something with that :)
I don’t know all the answers - nor have any of my own alts ever been banned so I did not have an occasion to look until now, but I see where the account is not removed, and in fact can be un-banned later. Here’s an irl example: https://lemmy.ml/u/sagxd (which we can see ourselves without an account on that instance - plus it is also visible from elsewhere e.g. https://lemmy.world/u/sagxd@lemmy.ml). You can read the story behind that incident in https://lemm.ee/post/45204357.
Most of the time how it seems to show up in the modlog, at least whenever it happens from lemmy.ml, is a slew of being banned from every community on the entire instance. Although there does seem to be a modlog entry to do differently (note the presence in the pull-down menu of “banning from site”), which despite not seeming to be (commonly? ever?) used from lemmy.ml, is indicated as often being used from other instances.
In particular I don’t know if a banned account can give or receive voting - I think I’ve heard people say both ways. I’ve saved your post and I’ll check back in later to see if someone can say with some actual knowledge what is going on!?:-)