The leaders of the Democratic National Committee announced they plan to learn absolutely nothing from their embarrassing loss to President-elect Donald Trump.
I’m kind of amazed that more politicians don’t just promise to try to implement all the highest polling ideas. (Spoiler: Most are progressive and socialist policies.) Especially presidential candidates running against potentially catastrophic fascists.
I’m sure the totals are so absurd that I can’t really comprehend the numbers. But Citizens United set the rules of the game. And Democrats don’t have that sweet cult advantage.
Embarrassing, but so is Trump and Vance winning so many working class votes, while being extremely wealthy anti-labor anti-union cunts, backed by world’s loudest and richest dipshit, which will demand more tax cuts (for them), tariffs and austerity (for us). “But Biden prices went up!” SMFH.
Sure. Costs are too high. People are angry. But angry people are not very reasonable or logical, and easier to manipulate. They just voted against any helpful progressive policies, in favor of tariffs, austerity, oligarchs, fascism, chaos, etc. This was very dumb.
To me, the core problem is that Democrats lost the information war, esp. with the average low info voters (“I get my news from Facebook/TikTok”). It didn’t help that Biden funded genocide and Harris ignored progressives.
As my straight white female 30s friend (were in vermont so it’s inconsequential) said: “I can’t afford another four years of this. I did better under the other guy although I hate him.” When I asked her about reproductive rights since she’s a straight woman of childbearing age she said “we’re protected in vermont. If that changes I’ll change.” (We have a state constitutional right to abortion here)
This woman doesn’t hate queers, she doesn’t hate minorities, the only thing she hates is inflation making her work harder for less and less.
And then there’s the wars. Biden/Harris royally fucked up. the billions we send to Ukraine and Israel are deeply unpopular with average people who see rising homelessness and increased natural disasters and shitty government response to it (we’ve been hit hard in vermont with massive flash floods and landslides from rain bombs, it barely makes the national news). The American people are hurting and our government is pissing away money on foreign forever wars. Even with all the insane pro Israel propaganda to the point that our free speech rights are threatened over it, people still don’t support it.
Um, f*** you? (Joking. But it could be worse: Imagine living in Texas, Bernie replaced by Ted Cruz, rain replaced by heat that kills half of everything outdoors.)
“I can’t afford another four years of this. I did better under the other guy although I hate him.”
I just can’t get over how lazy it is to blame “the current guy” though. I want to say to these people: Surprise, the response to a massive global pandemic led to a couple of years of inflation! (On top of that, poorly regulated capitalism and corporate consolidation led to opportunistic greed and historic profits, what a coincidence!) Who is trying to solve these problems (and who is obstructing)? What are their plans (and are they already improving the situation)? Connect the dots and vote for intelligent policies and people with real plans. This is not a game.
And then there’s the wars.
I would hope people don’t see Ukraine and Israel support as the same thing, but I’m all out of hope. On one hand, we have a newly democratic Ukraine and Zelinskyy trying to survive an invasion from a longtime US enemy and so-called superpower, after every heinous thing Putin done in the last decade? (But I’m sure “some people” think brutal dictators should be free to steamroll Europe again.) Seems like we finally found a worthy cause for our obligatory trillion-dollars-per-year military industrial complex! On the other hand, Netanyahu bombs civilians on a daily basis so he can avoid prosecution (sounds familiar). Hmm…
Part of the problem is that polling has been fundamentally flawed for a while now. Polling in 2016, 2020, and 2024 all showed Trump as losing and the polling agencies had to artificially weigh pro Trump supporters higher in the polls because they weren’t being adequately represented. It seems that a major portion of the problem is that some number of liberal/socialist poll respondents don’t end up actually voting and some number of conservative voters don’t end up responding to polls.
I’m kind of amazed that more politicians don’t just promise to try to implement all the highest polling ideas. (Spoiler: Most are progressive and socialist policies.) Especially presidential candidates running against potentially catastrophic fascists.
Because they exist to protect their corporate benefactors and popular policies don’t allow for that
And why do they serve them: All points back to the insane amount of money necessary to run a campaign (esp. at higher levels, vs billionaires, etc).
Can you believe the democrats spent this much money and still lost as badly as they did?! It blows the mind!
I’m sure the totals are so absurd that I can’t really comprehend the numbers. But Citizens United set the rules of the game. And Democrats don’t have that sweet cult advantage.
Embarrassing, but so is Trump and Vance winning so many working class votes, while being extremely wealthy anti-labor anti-union cunts, backed by world’s loudest and richest dipshit, which will demand more tax cuts (for them), tariffs and austerity (for us). “But Biden prices went up!” SMFH.
Don’t downplay inflation. That’s how Harris lost in the first place.
Sure. Costs are too high. People are angry. But angry people are not very reasonable or logical, and easier to manipulate. They just voted against any helpful progressive policies, in favor of tariffs, austerity, oligarchs, fascism, chaos, etc. This was very dumb.
To me, the core problem is that Democrats lost the information war, esp. with the average low info voters (“I get my news from Facebook/TikTok”). It didn’t help that Biden funded genocide and Harris ignored progressives.
As my straight white female 30s friend (were in vermont so it’s inconsequential) said: “I can’t afford another four years of this. I did better under the other guy although I hate him.” When I asked her about reproductive rights since she’s a straight woman of childbearing age she said “we’re protected in vermont. If that changes I’ll change.” (We have a state constitutional right to abortion here)
This woman doesn’t hate queers, she doesn’t hate minorities, the only thing she hates is inflation making her work harder for less and less.
And then there’s the wars. Biden/Harris royally fucked up. the billions we send to Ukraine and Israel are deeply unpopular with average people who see rising homelessness and increased natural disasters and shitty government response to it (we’ve been hit hard in vermont with massive flash floods and landslides from rain bombs, it barely makes the national news). The American people are hurting and our government is pissing away money on foreign forever wars. Even with all the insane pro Israel propaganda to the point that our free speech rights are threatened over it, people still don’t support it.
Um, f*** you? (Joking. But it could be worse: Imagine living in Texas, Bernie replaced by Ted Cruz, rain replaced by heat that kills half of everything outdoors.)
I just can’t get over how lazy it is to blame “the current guy” though. I want to say to these people: Surprise, the response to a massive global pandemic led to a couple of years of inflation! (On top of that, poorly regulated capitalism and corporate consolidation led to opportunistic greed and historic profits, what a coincidence!) Who is trying to solve these problems (and who is obstructing)? What are their plans (and are they already improving the situation)? Connect the dots and vote for intelligent policies and people with real plans. This is not a game.
I would hope people don’t see Ukraine and Israel support as the same thing, but I’m all out of hope. On one hand, we have a newly democratic Ukraine and Zelinskyy trying to survive an invasion from a longtime US enemy and so-called superpower, after every heinous thing Putin done in the last decade? (But I’m sure “some people” think brutal dictators should be free to steamroll Europe again.) Seems like we finally found a worthy cause for our obligatory trillion-dollars-per-year military industrial complex! On the other hand, Netanyahu bombs civilians on a daily basis so he can avoid prosecution (sounds familiar). Hmm…
Part of the problem is that polling has been fundamentally flawed for a while now. Polling in 2016, 2020, and 2024 all showed Trump as losing and the polling agencies had to artificially weigh pro Trump supporters higher in the polls because they weren’t being adequately represented. It seems that a major portion of the problem is that some number of liberal/socialist poll respondents don’t end up actually voting and some number of conservative voters don’t end up responding to polls.