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    11 months ago

    Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can’t subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.

    Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that’s the whole idea of federation.

    De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.

    Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That’s why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.

    Lemmy’s strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.

    De-federation is bad.

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      If an instance is merely blocked, does that mean all content produced by that instance, or by a Lemmy.World user using that instance, is strictly not stored on Lemmy.World servers?

      Otherwise there might still be liability. Also, in the US you don’t even have to do anything illegal to be the target of a lawsuit—distancing from piracy is a practical defense against the cost of legal proceedings, even if it’s technically legal.

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    11 months ago

    Also lemmy.world is not the most stable instance and experiences a lot of downtime. My user experience got a lot better after I moved out of lemmy.world.

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      11 months ago

      It experiences a lot of downtime because the alt right kids who got defederated keep using 4chans ddos tool to bring it down…

      It’s not going down from normal user load.

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    11 months ago

    Oh do please tell me about this “piracy” you speak of. Pirates are my people, I sailed the seas with them back in 1998 and my 28 kilobaud modem. Unfortunately I have lost sight of them in the private tracker wars.

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      11 months ago

      I’ve never bothered with private trackers, what benefits do they actually provide?

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        11 months ago

        None, just use a VPN and thepiratebay/nyaa/whatever else and stop being a baby

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            11 months ago

            I would never execute a pirated app in a non sandboxed environment, that’s just silly.

            Just buy games on steam like the rest of the world.

            I’m talking movies and anime personally

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                11 months ago

                Who tf

                I have like 600 games in my backlog between emulation and steam sales, why would I risk a keylogger snatching my bank info?

                You think you’re safe using a private tracker? Lol

                I might trust fitgirl repacks, if I was truly broke and desperate and kept it to my gaming only partition.