• Tony Bark@pawb.social
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    1 year ago

    It is on the subject of privacy. Chrome and Android are owned by the same company.

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      1 year ago

      Did you watch the video? The Android Open Source Project isn’t owned by Google. Even if it was, the point of the video is that you have the choice not to use Chrome or any other Google service on android. Android offers about the same average base level of privacy and security as iOS does, but with much more potential. That ranges from uninstalling Google apps to flashing custom ROMs like GrapheneOS.

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        1 year ago

        The Android Open Source Project isn’t owned by Google

        One of those things that technically is true but in practice it isn’t. Just like chromium. Google is the main influencer of the project and it’s naive to think otherwise.

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            1 year ago

            Just correcting because your comment insinuated that google doesn’t have significant influence over android, which is far from the truth. They could as well own it.

            I didn’t mean to dispute or address the rest of the comment.

          • Tony Bark@pawb.social
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            1 year ago

            Fine. But you can’t obviously say Android is somehow better at privacy when its biggest contributor to the code and ecosystem is a fucking indecisive ad company.

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              An evaluation of good or bad an OS is for privacy should first and firemost focus on the actual OS, not the biggest contributer. It is an important point, and it would be way way more important if Android wasn’t open source. But it is, and it can easily be checked by security researchers. So saying Google bad (which I agree with ftr), and everything Google touches bad, would not only exclude you from many open source projects like linux, it would also not be a good aporoach to make a good, informed choice about your digital life.

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                If we judge Android on its own, yes, it can be incredibly safe and secure for its open source abilities. But that conventionally ignores everything else. Google pushes Android forward, Google creates the SDKs, Google creates the IDEs, Google creates all the non-phone variants of the OS. Android isn’t on GitHub, it’s on Google’s servers. “Biggest contributor” is an understatement.

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                  1 year ago

                  conveniently ignores

                  Is this about how private and secure the actual usage of the actual OS is, or what?

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                    1 year ago

                    I’ve given up trying to discuss this topic that’s already been downvoted to oblivion, anyway. But, if you’re curious, I was trying to get the point that Android is pretty useless without the whole Infrastructure Google built, but they kept making it about ASOP. As if the average Joe even knows what that is.