Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; ‘The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,’ says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages’ location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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      Ahh so are you one of those “genocide is what I feel it is” folk or one of those “genocide is when the Jews are still alive” sort of folk?

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        Did you know there are Jewish palastinians? On top of that, Palestinians are semitic. You can’t call racist when the group I’m defending is in the same racial group and contains religious Jewish folk. It ain’t about being Jewish, it’s about the fact I have seen palastinians getting shot in the street for literally my whole life. My whole life I’m hearing news every now and then how Israel overstepped again and ethnically cleanse an area of palastinians. How they kicked palastinians out of their home. I’ve seen videos of Israeli settlers kicking palastinians out of their home at gunpoint saying that the state sold them the house. It’s a state doing a genocide. It isn’t “the Jews” you fucking moron. It’s the state of Israel. Interesting how you see Israel as being an ethnostate but don’t see their removal of natives as genocide. But that’s what happens when you don’t think about your ideas longer than 5 seconds.

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          Did you know there are Jewish palastinians?

          About 50% of Israeli Jews are descendants Arabs, Persians and North Africans who were forcibly relocated to Israel by the leaders of the Arab world or native to the region. Israel is a reservation, agreed to and established by Arabs as part of the agreement between their leaders and European leaders to overthrow the Ottoman Empire.

          I’ve seen videos of Israeli settlers kicking palastinians out of their home at gunpoint saying that the state sold them the house. It’s a state doing a genocide.

          In the West Bank or the Gaza strip? Because there are no and have been no settlements in the Gaza Strip in a generation.

          So again, is it a genocide because you feel like it or because they’re Jews?

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            I ain’t arguing. You are an evil motherfucker willing to justify a genocide. Ain’t no convincing you. Ain’t no convincing me. Your wrong and I hope one day your heart opens and sees it. Or at the very least I hope for your sake the afterlife contains no hell.

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              You’re an ignorant person man. Your mistaking a war with a genocide. Hamas can end the conflict tomorrow by surrendering. A conflict they started by murdering, enslaving and raping undeniably innocent people.

              If Hamas surrenders and the bombs keep falling nobody will be yelling genocide more than I. But equating incompetence on the part of Hamas’s defense strategy and stubbornness on it’s war goals with a genocide. Hamas’ blind and overconfident aggression is the cause of theses deaths in Gaza. Being blind to that doesn’t make you moral.

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                Soulless, heartless, justifier of genocide. I ain’t talking to ya. I ain’t even reading it. There’s no amount of information to justify what Israel has done. Even if Hamas was everything you want to believe they are, the embodiment of pure evil, that still wouldn’t justify genocide. Just cause it’s a “war” doesn’t mean you can just blow up civilian buildings and shoot humanitarian workers. Bet your the kind of mindless scumbag who thinks the nukes were justified too. Targeting civilians means nothing to you.

                I hope one day you could be on the receiving end of someone else’s ““justified war””. Live in the shoes of a person born on the wrong side of the border. Maybe that perspective of watching your family and friends and neighbors die on a daily basis would change you.

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                  I ain’t even reading it.

                  Everything you need to know about your position.

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                    I don’t “hear out” the reasons a Nazi has for justifying genocide. Do you? Like to sit at their table and have a chat? Listen to his drivle and morally unfounded bullshit? You sure do. But I don’t listen to Nazis.