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Boo
Yeah, where my empiricists at? All my homies hate idealism
Are we learning German now?
Ja
Actually I started before Lemmy but I’m bad at it still
There are several steps between learning German and comprehending whatever the fuck we’re doing over there.
Would it help to have mental illness? Cause if so, I’ll dust off some of these old Rammstein CDs and meet you guys over there after I get more proficient.
If you use ich_iel to learn German, your next visit to Germany could be… interesting.
To be honest… I would pay for a beer or two just to watch that.
Ich möchte diesen Teppich nicht kaufen. Bitte.
Schade.
I still don’t know what ich_iel is and at this point I’m too afraid to ask
It’s the German version of me_irl. Stands for “Ich _ im echten Leben” and is a direct translation of the English
Omg I was reading it as “ich lel” not “ich iel” this whole time 😅 thanks
I’ve internally been saying “eesh eel”
… which now seems like calling it "me earl’
It is pretty close on the pronunciation, except ch is not sh. Unless you’re speaking certain regional dialects :)
The closest pronunciation you can get in English is probably eek.
I’ve only ever met a few native Germans in person, and understand just enough to get to the bathroom, so I don’t know if I just misheard, or they’re one of the few people who do say it that way.
I’ll take any native German’s word on their own language though! Lol or even anyone who’s studied.
I’m a German native who studied linguistics (ok, computational linguistics with a minor in phonetics and phonology), but I basically only speak my regional dialect well. I was visiting a friend in Berlin once and a stranger in a bar complimented me that I “speak good German for a foreigner”.
Hey that sounds like studying linguistics to me! Pun mildly intended.
That’s gotta be a bit of a gut punch though…
It also incorporates c/memes, basically
Bless you sir or madam, you know not how long I have suffered
Aww, thanks! Consider me slightly more educated than when I awoke this morning :)
it is only me_irl in name though, it is a general meme / conversational community with the obnoxious (and over used to death) in joke that is zangendeutsch.
It’s not overused if its funny. And it is very funny
“Zangendeutsch” means an aggressive way of removing the influence of english into the german language. But outside of ich_iel we write in english as everyone. Which is obviously a little bit weird, isn’t it?
What annoys me personally about it (to the point that i blocked the community) is that it is mandatory. That’s not humor, or funny, that is weird performative scripted humor. I often felt reminded of carnival speeches.
I’d also argue that it isnt very successful in clearing anglicisms from the german vernacular when it is all about making the most incorrect and cryptic literal translation imaginable to the point that nobody could understand unless they are well versed in those anglicisms.
They’re making English a linguistic dependency for German? lol
No, that’s wrong. Zangendeutsch is all about English influence and playfully literal translations even when there are better German words. So you need to translate it back to English and into German again to decode it and that’s the fun about it.
So is that the “Zange”? Because you need to go from the things you are holding (the information, in “German”) to the hinge (the literal English translation) and back down again (actual German translation) to understand (aka grasp it)‽
I’m not sure if I understood your deduction. The literal translation of “Zange” would be “tongs”, “pliers” or “pincer”. Hinges are the things that make doors swing and hold to a wall right?
Multiple source say the origin of the word isn’t documented but the best explanation they come up with is that pliers can be used to bend something into a different form.
My guess was it has its origin in the proverb “Das würde ich nicht mal mit der Kneifzange anfassen” which translates to “I wouldn’t even touch that with pliers” as in stuff you detest that much that you rather would stay away from it.
Dutchie who speaks German here, I hadn’t heard of the word ‘Zangendeutsch’ before. I get what it means, but why ‘Zangen’? Does it come from tongs or does it have another meaning? Tongs-German makes no sense to me
German here, no idea what it has to do with a Zange
Oh my god, you’re woke!
Whoops, guess I’m now the enemy of a hundred million Americans
My bad
Happy to help
“War’s schon immer.”
It started as a German version of me_irl (hence the name “ich im echten Leben”) and developed a culture on its own including bad translations from English and other insiders
It’s mostly ramen, cows and trains now.
I blocked that both on Reddit and here at the very beginning, without knowing what iel means, the posts were mostly unsympathetic and irritating.
As in “ze motorboat is full of iel”?
Hovercraft, but yes
I filter non-english subs whenever I can (Sorry I want to be able to read things) ;v;
There doesn’t seem to be an automatic way to do this though
There doesn’t seem to be an automatic way to do this though
Actually there is a very simple way for doing exact this: Go to your profile -> settings -> languages
The only settings i see are these, and if I navigate to my own profile I don’t see any unique setting buttons.
default listing All default post sort Hot default comment sort Hot theme Dark endless scrolling auto load more hide instance names hide thumbnails collapse inline media open links in new window expand marks read
are you using a browser or any lemmy client? in a browser:
Desktop: click on your username, located on the upper right corner
Mobile: click on the menu icon in the upper right corner, then on your username.
Now click on “settings”
It should look like this now:
I promise I’m not stupid, but uhhhh, when I click on my name, it brings me to a page that looks like a community with an overview of everything I’ve posted, but there’s not an option to select a language.
That said, I was also spooked off by the “You won’t see most content” thing, which led me to believe that a lot of communities aren’t language tagged properly(?)
I promise I’m not stupid, but uhhhh, when I click on my name, it brings me to a page that looks like a community with an overview of everything I’ve posted,
Strange. I get that only when I click on my name and then choose “profile” instead of “settings”.
You are on lemmy.world, aren’t you?
It turns out old.lemmy.world doesn’t have it lmao.
I hate the newer style look so uh, yeah.
The conflict between seeing so many German users but also wanting more people on Lemmy altogether. Alright Germans… You win this time
I’m legitimately trying to learn German because of this
Sehr gut.
Oh, no thank you. I’m full.
Macht doch nichts, da geht noch mehr.
It matters to me :(
I’m genuinely trying to renaturalize to Germany eventually and all I need is to learn German, so this ended up being a happy accident
Weiter so! Ich lerne auch Deutsch.
Yes I do like German.
This is why I blocked feddit.org
It’s all one person, me and my other personalities.
Hi. Was essen wir heute am Abend?
Pizza, wenn das für @bleistift2@sopuli.xyz in Ordnung ist
Boah, leiwand. Krosse-Krabbe-Pizza?
OK
He sie sorry abe äh!
I see more Dutch content than German.
That’s odd, I see more German content and I am Dutch.
Anyway I need to get back to Stuttgart in time to watch Kraftwerk.
Who could possibly think that???
!ich_iel@feddit.org übernehmen Sie
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Doch
Oooh
I find the lack of “SPRICH” in here disturbing.
But there is a lot of “DEUTSCH” in here, so…
aber “DU”, da geht noch was!
HURENSOHN, hast du recht.
Durr heigen durr durr! See I can German too!
And this is my English:
