I’d like to use both, with preferably the same account, but mainly the same android app
Does Tusky display threaded content properly when browsing Lemmy?
How can I browse mastodon from a lemmy client?
@VintageGenious Think about it this way: an email client can do both Gmail and Hotmail (and Fastmail etc.) because it’s all just email. The same goes for the Fediverse; it’s all just ActivityPub. For example this reply is from a Mastodon app :D
I have personal frustrations about how popular servers like Mastodon and Lemmy hide ActivityPub. I feel progress is stifled. Enough that I wrote my own ActivityPub service (https://apubtest2.srcbeat.com/apas.html)
And Thunderbird can do email/rss/newsletters and even Matrix…
@rglullis RSS is so underrated I feel. Easy to understand, battle-tested, scales up easily, plethora of clients. Many uses of microblogging, especially in the “real world” use by places like governments, police departments, public transport services could be easily replaced by simple RSS/Atom feeds. Governments and TV stations don’t need to set up Mastodon instances since they never actually interact with people. It’s not “social” media to them; just another avenue of broadcast.
True. For podcasts, seems like RSS is the main thing
Lots of things! I subscribe to blogs, Lemmy communities, Mastodon accounts, podcasts, YouTube channels, source code repositories (GitHub, Sourcehut, cgit…), Hacker News, subreddits. All in one ad-free, tracker-less, totally local, instantly searchable, open source application. Couldn’t have lived without it for the past 15 - 20 years!
Though you cannot interact with it right ?
Sure I can ;) I clicked on the link to your post in my RSS reader then replied from a Mastodon application.
Yes I knew about ActivityPub and was told everything works together but realized I hardly see anything from other Fediverse networks, and that interoperability is not implemented everywhere. So that’s why I am asking as I don’t see anything mastodon in my lemmy client (except for these comments)
@VintageGenious For sure you’re absolutely right to ask the question. I have the same question :)
I guess I’m just venting. Popular Fediverse systems are implemented in a way that closely mimics exisiting CRUD social media like Twitter and Reddit. You upload a post, it’s stored in a database, and you’re done. Mastodon and Lemmy are the same, with the afterthought of sending ActivityPub messages to other systems.
And we see the result: how federation works remains an obscurity.
Can Lemmy people see this comment?
Yep 🙂
Yes!
Probably! :) https://old.lemmy.world/post/19168403
To rephrase your question: “did my message get sent to Lemmy servers?”
Because in a sense, your comment isn’t “on” anything; you sent a message to your server (thebrainbin.org) which then sent out a copy to many, many other servers.
mbin is probably the closest to what you want. Its supports both threaded content (lemmy) as well as microblogging (mastodon) Here is a list of servers https://joinmbin.org/servers and interstellar is the mbin app.
Honourable mention to piefed.social / pyfedi which can do both as well.
However, it’s newer than mbin and I’m not sure about mobile apps working with it.
Piefed doesn’t have an api, so no 3rd party client. You can use the PWA.
Someone creates a version which adds a Lemmy compatible api to pyfedi and tested out a couple of mobile apps against it, https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/13#issuecomment-1814982
So it’s not impossible - but it’s also very much a YMMV thing (I suppose it’s really still only for developers atm)
Mbin also works pretty well directly using web.
Thanks. Had to make a mbin account as interstellar with lemmy account did not display any comment. Still need to find out how to use mastodon inside of it xD
IMO, app developers in general are lacking imagination or ambition over ideas like this. I’ve even suggested it directly to a developer or a popular mastodon app, who was entertaining the idea of making a lemmy app … and they said they couldn’t see how it would work.
@maegul @VintageGenious Agreed. But it’s tricky. Few thoughts:
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ActivityPub itself is in a bit of a mess. Spec too large (spread out over many other specifications!), poor documentation, overly generic.
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Many devs just aren’t that familiar with interoperability
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To encourage adoption, Mastodon and Lemmy cloned existing services and behaviour
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Those two fediverse systems added ActivityPub late in their development
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I think Fedilab should do both:
Last time I checked it was more about mastodon than lemmy
It is, probably. But I did a check before I posted and it did display content from Lemmy. Just pointing out alternatives here.
The problem is that you cannot log into a Lemmy account with it, so if you already started on Lemmy and have an account here it’s not very useful for you.
Isn’t that what mbin is?
