Your Feedback Matters: Take Our Survey on Browser Features!
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Hello Mozilla Connect Community, I’m Chance York, a User Researcher on the Firefox User Research team. I’m reaching out because our team has created a survey to gather opinions on a handful of browser features, some of which were suggested previously on Mozilla Connect. Your feedback on this survey...
  • eksb@programming.devEnglish
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    3 months ago

    How much AI do you want in your browser:

    ( ) None

    ( ) Zero

    ( ) I want my browser to automatically close any page that mentions AI

    • Thann@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Which of these options do you prefer:

      ( ) having an AI assistant integrated into the browser

      ( ) getting kicked in the balls by elon musk

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
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      3 months ago

      hi we’re the marketing team and we already decided what we want to do, and we can make up whatever data you want to see for us to justify it!

      • Nikki@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        that question seemed directly made by some software dev that shares my opinion lol

        i picked 2x slower browser over ai because at least if it is gonna be slower im not gonna be harassed by some amalgamation of every incel shitpost on the Internet

  • pop@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Do they publish any of the data from these surveys or use it as an excuse to remove more useful features?

    “We listen to our community, so now we’re removing about: config access from stable desktop builds to match the mobile version to provide uniform builds, making problems easier to replicate and also provide better security for all. Please use beta or nightly builds for tinkering.”

    • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Product managers know what KPI’s they want to improve, and its almost never survey sentiment results. The survey will be used to justify projects that improve the KPIs they already have. Best case scenario it helps them choose what to work on first, worst case (and most likely) it doesn’t matter what the survey says - it’s engineered to justify a pet project.

      i.e. Straight out of “how to lie with statistics” - Would you rather drink bleach or add in browser advertisements based on privacy respecting AI categorization of you browsing behavior? … The people have spoken and they OVERWHELMINGLY want more monetization in their browser.

      • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
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        3 months ago

        The reason I mention PWA for desktop is very different from mobile, but for either, a PWA can live anywhere, it’s just a menu less browser with the site’s icon vs the firefox one. Handy for sites with no apps that you want to be able to task switch independently for. They dont have to be on a home screen or desktop.

        Granted, the wording of the question would make one think so.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      Yeah, some of these questions made more sense for mobile than desktop. For example, I want to split tabs on desktop, but I don’t on mobile. Likewise, I don’t really care about PWAs on mobile (there’s usually an app with a better experience), but I do care on desktop because that isn’t a thing on my system (Linux).

      I think it would’ve been better had they broken them into groups for mobile and desktop.

        • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Nope. A PWA gives you a browser window with no menu bars and the icon of the age vs the browser. It’s treated as a separate entity in your start bar for task switching.

          Many of us still use Chromium for that one feature, while using Firefox for everything else.

  • kshade@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Things I want from Firefox/Mozilla, in no particular order:

    • Just hire the uBlock Origin guy, Chrome doesn’t want him
    • Dissolve the Mozilla Corporation, start a Patreon or whatever
    • Foxkeh plushie

    I am willing to compromise on the “unreasonable” ones 🦊

  • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 months ago

    You folks are really exaggerating. How is this survey weird? The random questions in groups of 3 make it easy to compare 3 features instead of rating 60 different features by most wanted to least wanted. In aggregate from thousands of replies, they can sort all answers.

    • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      It’s the “most wanted” language. I don’t blame common folks associating “most wanted” with “I want this!” when in fact they don’t mean it.

      • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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        3 months ago

        But the language is clear. From these 3 features, choose the one you want the most and the one you want the least 🤔

            • Don_alForno@feddit.orgDeutsch
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              3 months ago

              The person evaluating the poll will take away “person likes option 1 most” not “person absolutely wants none of these in their browser, ever”. That’s the issue. You should not phrase questions in a way that assumes parts of the answer, at least not if you want useful results.

              A better way would have been to let us rate features 0 to 10 and just accept if people thought their feature ideas are all shit.

              • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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                3 months ago

                It’s not a better way to rate from 0 to 10. It takes way more effort from the user and leads to more people dropping out. And in the end, the result is the same in aggregate. If your opinion is popular, more people will vote like you because the sets of 3 are random. In a survey of thousands, individual opinions don’t matter. No one is going to evaluate the answers one by one.

                • Don_alForno@feddit.orgDeutsch
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                  3 months ago

                  It takes way more effort from the user and leads to more people dropping out.

                  Then make it 0 to 3 or 0 to 1 for all I care. You missed the point, which is: If I want or don’t want feature A doesn’t influence if I want or don’t want feature B, and linking the two distorts the results of the poll.

                  in the end, the result is the same in Aggregate.

                  Not if you include the human factor of the decision maker, who can twist “wanted less” into “still wanted a bit” as a justification if they want a certain feature for different reasons than user benefit (like, say, a “privacy friendly” but indeed not at all privacy friendly mechanism to give data to add networks). That doesn’t fly with “0 points”.

        • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          The language is not clear.

          " As a vegetarian, which of these three options you want the least and which you want the most? You MUST choose to continue:

          1. Chicken sandwich.
          2. A kick in the balls.
          3. Pork sandwich.

          "

          You are saying that a reasonable person (vegetarian in this case, and disclaimer: I am not vegetarian) would say “well, I want a kick in the balls the least, so I’ll choose that. Now, fuck, I HATE chicken sandwiches and I HATE pork sandwiches. They both make me puke. But if I have to choose, I guess I’ll go for the chicken sandwich. Hey pollster, I want the chicken sandwich the most.” And the pollster writes “Chester wants the chicken sandwich the most.” Yeah, very clear.

          • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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            3 months ago

            That’s the typical “if you were in a deserted island” scenario that vegetarians and vegans are very familiar with. Given those 3 options:

            1 > 2 > 3

        • unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
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          3 months ago

          They could’ve just said “Rank the features from one to three accordibg to how much you like it”. This seems unneccessarily more confusing. It isn’t all that cobfusing, but it is an odd way to formulate the question.

    • kill_dash_nine@lemm.eeEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I feel like most of these people were way over analyzing the questions. No reason to look for in depth meaning of possible answers, just answer them and take them at face value.

  • zod000@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    I took the survey and I didn’t like how they occasionally put all shitty features in a group and I had to pick one I wanted and then followed it with all good stuff in a group and I had to say I didn’t want one.

  • heavyboots@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I hope like hell the sets of questions were randomized, because if they weren’t, they were tweaked by the surveyors beforehand to try and force a particular result.

    Like the AI question was paired with some incredibly crappy options like “A browser that runs 2x slower than your current browser”. Obviously they want you to click that option as least wanted and leave the AI development alone (if that wasn’t a randomized grouping).

    Similarly, it looked like they were trying to decide which feature to sacrifice in support of AI dev in later questions, because all 3 would be things I enjoy much more than AI, but I have to rate one as least wanted.

  • sudo42@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    When looking for a new web browser, which feature would you prefer most and which would you prefer least?

    • A color palette that matches Danny DeVito’s armpit hair.
    • Play the theme to Annie at startup.
    • Take up all computer resources.

    I don’t want any of those. Can’t we just have a browser that filters all of the popups, junk and advertising?

    Nope. You can’t progress through the survey without picking one thing you really don’t want and at least one of two things you couldn’t give a shit less about.

      • ryper@lemmy.caEnglish
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        3 months ago

        They needed to have something that might be less appealing than an AI assistant

      • jbk@discuss.tchncs.de
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        3 months ago

        You’d rather have yours twice as slow than a feature you could probably disable? Weird blind hate ngl

        • unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
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          3 months ago

          I think that’s a good way of measuring “bullshit” in tge surver. The only problem is that you get just one of these questionnaires and a bunch of other questions for the entire survey

      • nyctre@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Oh. I had different sets. I had all 3 options but not against each other. So it seems they’re randomized.

        Edit: hadn’t read the other replies. People have already figured that out, it seems.

  • Tywèle [she|her]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    The survey is broken on Firefox for Android. The first set of most wanted and least wanted statements doesn’t let me set an answer for all 3. As soon as I set an answer for the 3rd statement it clears the answer for my first statement.

    • stankmut@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Of each set of 3, you can only have one marked as most wanted and one marked as least wanted. You will leave one statement blank.

    • Sparrow@pawb.social
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      3 months ago

      That’s working as intended. The survey won’t accept you wanting two things most or least. You can pick one you want most, one you want least, and the unselected option is the one you have the weakest opinion on.