lemmy aint that private, and possibly easily scrapable
It’s as private as you make it. It does not have integrated tracking and/or ad trafficking.
Couldn’t it? If an Instance owner so chose?
Of course it COULD but someone has to modify the code. Boost for Lemmy also shows google ads…
Not a code change at all, just a filtering of the traffic from particular ip’s and forwarding it to a different page which is all that reddit is doing as well.
How can you implement Google AdSense banners like that???
I wasn’t talking about good AdSense in this case, just the page you are redirected to if you are coming from one of their marked VPN IP addresses. Unless this has changed since the last time I attempted to go to Reddit with a VPN on. But that’s the behavior I’ve witnessed.
Yeah, Lemmy doesn’t block you from accessing it via a VPN, for one.
Reddit isn’t privacy-safe either.
I’d put less bots/more legitimate users as a benefit of lemmy instead of privacy though.
To be honest, privacy is not a major concern of mine and wasn’t a factor in my decision making at all. Things like messages not being e2e encrypted don’t really bother me that much.
not having e2e bothers me on private 1on1 chat apps.
i don’t expect it on lemmy though.
also a gdpr nightmare
Care to explain why?
I’m assuming he means because federation, even if you delete something its mirrored on other instances
Sure, but the deletion is also mirrored to the other instances no?
Its not a guaranteed thing. As I understand it servers can simply choose to ignore the delete federation. I have never run a Lemmy server though, so take that with a tiny grain of salt.
Yeah, but companies can also “choose” to ignore GDPR requests. I don’t think talking about instances not following the spec and deleting things when requested is relevant.
Under normal circumstances. But there could be federation issues, or someone could run a custom Verizon that just ignores all deletion requests.
I’m unsure if that’s considered part of the diligence required in Europe.
it should
As all sites should be. I’m on the internet, mr world wide. When did we expect privacy. Don’t put nothing online you don’t want the world to know.
I used to think like this, but it’s a bit more nuanced./ If you tell people they can’t have any expectation of privacy, it’s essentially telling people of persecuted minorities that they’re not welcome.
Perfect privacy is impossible, but it shouldn’t be trivial to violate someone’s privacy when their membership of such a community is relevant.
hi, just created my account and installed voyager to browse on my phone. its great so far, I hope it’ll last and I can ditch reddit entirely. Trying to find more interest-based fediverses, anyone know where to look?
Nahh the mods are irrelevant, they’re human everywhere .
Reddits a turd because its corporate, they’re literally exploiting you for their betterment. I dont understand why people are OK with that but here we are.
Tell your friends about the Boost app. It makes things so much easier.
Better than sync?
Boost has ads. Just FYI, I use it and like it a lot but some can’t stand ads
Voyager has big Apollo vibes which I am appreciating
I’m using Arctic and really like it! Apollo vibes.
Love the irony of this being posted on .ml which has trash mods and admins that will ban you from completely unrelated communities if you dare to call out their bullshit.
There are pros and cons. Is use both, because Lemmy on its own just isn’t big enough to replace Reddit. Lemmy has a decent variety of active communities for very broad/mainstream topics, plus technology and left wing politics, reflecting the shared interests of most Lemmy users. But then for any topic that’s more niche and doesn’t have a disproportionally large overlap with the interests of Lemmy users, it kinda falls appart. A lot of the more niche subredddits I participate in have no Lemmy equivalent.
I’m also hesitant to call Lemmy’s moderation better. One thing I’ve noticed with Lemmy mods is that they tend to be far too lenient with off-topic posts. Right now the top post for me on “All” is this post from !science_memes@mander.xyz. You might notice that it isn’t a meme in any way shape or form. You might also notice that it was literally posted by a mod from that community. This kind of thing happens a lot, communities on Lemmy are very prone to getting derailed away from their nominal topic.
I insulted a mod unknowingly on a subreddit like a decade ago (all I said was that his advice was idiotic) and since then every time I mistakenly post on that subreddit, my account get permabanned and then all my other accounts get permabanned as well. What a completely stupid website.
This happened to me for a Pro palestine comment.
Today they accidentally unbanned me because they can’t even run their platform properly.
My account has an “suspension appeal rejected” message and is still running, fucking hell
They didn’t even say anything, the account Is just suddenly not banned anymore
FYI, you seem to be new here and seem not to be far-left. For your future enjoyment of lemmy, note that Lemmy.ML is a communist instance and therefore you may not like some of the content there.
Pandas are not known to be the brightest animals. But a bored one may have a well rested mind so who knows.
I don’t hold any ideological leanings and don’t mind communists and marxists.
why not both 💃🏻
Because the other one suuuuucks. Moda suck badly, management sucks, it all sucks.
So where do you go for tech advice, niche hobbies and obscure activities?
I go here. If there isn’t the right sub yet, I make it, start advertising it on Reddit.
After Reddit closed the API so that spez could get his 100+ million bonus, yet I no longer was allowed to use my RedditIsFun app, it was game over for me. I deleted 13+ years of thousands of my posts and replies, 150K karma, fuck it, don’t care, not leaving that so an sociopath can enrich himself
I umderstand your reasoning and I sure hope the fediverse will succeed. I doubt the normies will come over any time soon, but that is not really a bad thing. What is bad tho, is the fragmentation of data over so many instances, duplicate communities not knowing about each other and the censorship some instances apply. I don’t even know how some of these will get fixed or if they will ever, as they are core part of a decentralized architecture. I miss infinity tho, eternity for lemmy worked for a while but it’s no longer maintained :(
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It’s going to have ads eventually if it continues to grow.
Why?
because advertisers will do anything to sell something. even if not official ads id bet we see fake accounts pushing something like reddit has seen over the years
Spam is a moderation/instance level problem. If your community is pinning ads, nobody’s going to subscribe or participate in it. There’s no value in doing so.
not pinning ads just posting them. buying upvotes maybe
I’ll just host my own instance without ads.
That’s not how this works. Eventually the way we search instances gets weighed heavily to the content with ads. Look at podcasts or youtube. You just can’t find that OG material and it’s not just because the Joe Rogan are just that much better at podcasting. It’s because the ads are expensive and the system is made to sell attention.
You cannot give an inch. You either have to stand firm and never tolerate any encroachment of advertising or you have to bend over and grab the ankles and brace for the massive ad injection into all our spaces. There can never be any middle ground. Like a weed you have to be proactive and the minute you let your guard down it’ll take over wearing the face of your favorite ishowspeed clone.
mechanically speaking though, you can just fork it
or leave lemmy.world (say) for another instance
world is straight up the worst instance, truly impressive how bad it is
It’s sliding further and further to the right, calling out transphobia gets your comments removed now if it’s against power users being transphobic or defending transphobia.
Maybe I’m not understanding. But my thing is stuff like this
Internet is sliding away from what it was originally in the worst way. it’s to the point you cannot create anything without forcing ads into it. At what point does just forking the instance not work. Who says github doesn’t just start charging people like an Azure subscription and then offer up as packages as a way to reduce cost
Someone will fork it then. That’s what I’m saying to not give an inch.
and then what? have the same fractional migration of users to yet another small corner of the internet?
Why not just collectively reject ads and fight for the spaces we have left instead.
I am rejecting add, that’s why I’m on Lemmy hahaha
Why not just collectively reject ads and fight for the spaces we have left instead.
How? Just say no?
nothing gets big without being taken over by a corporation or government. and I mean that in the most meta way possible.
What does that look like on Lemmy?
Reddit: porn
Lemmy: no porn
There’s like, a whole instance for porn.
Many instances are defederated but not dbzer0
The key is to make your own porn account on lemmynsfw
Yeah but OP is from dbzer0, and i bet some smaller one doesn’t defederate as well.
That was my point. I have a dbzer0 account as well and I block all these communities so I’m surprised they don’t even see them
Was I the only one who read “power hungry” and “mods” separately and thought it fit with how reddit is run these days? I.E. the owners of the site are power hungry. I mean, the mods are too but they don’t hold a candle to the owners or reddit.
It’s the same picture.
Lemmy: with account and active participation (but lurking most of the time) Reddit: using RedReader without account to browse all those best posts from days past.
Also, can’t search it without google according to them.
