Joe Biden has called on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, moments after shocking police video was released showing an Illinois officer fatally shooting Sonya Massey after she called police fearing a home intruder.

In his first public statement since dropping his bid for re-election, Biden said the shooting of Massey, a 36-year-old Black woman, by white Sangamon county sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson, in her home in Springfield, after a dispute over a pot of boiling water, “reminds us that all too often Black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not”.

Biden, who is recovering from Covid at his home in Delaware, said Massey, “a beloved mother, friend, daughter and young Black woman … should be alive today”.

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    So hang on, you’ve correctly identified there’s a lot of racism in the US, but your solution… Is that we shouldn’t bring up race in racially biased situations? We shouldn’t call out racism?

    ???

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        Ignoring race, because you keep bringing it up to excuse shitty Police behavior.

        Police closing the distance on someone they see as violent is an escalation of violence. She would very likely be alive today if they didn’t choose to make the situation worse by escalating.

        Pulling a gun and retreating, then shooting if she advanced, yep shooting is fine. Putting her in a corner and shooting when she flinches thinking she’s about to die? That’s murder. I don’t know how you are too dumb to understand this.

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            3 months ago

            I’ve re watched it dozens of times because I’m morbidly curious. That cop is a shit bag who was looking to kill someone.

            Did you watch it without masturbating over authority figures?

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              Jfc… Some big presumptions there.

              It seems obvious to me that if you threaten to throw boiling water over a cop, and they pull their gun and state they will fence themselves if you try…

              Well, you put yourself entirely into her position.

              It’s either suicide by cop or she was truly dangerous enough to harm innocent people… Yaknow… Because of the whole teaching for boiling water with anger on her face in an attempt to throw it on innocent people.

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                  Did… Somebody claim they were?

                  I’d the best argument you have … pretending somebody said something that you CAN argue against?

                  The question isn’t is a gun equally capable of damage as boiling water… the question was nice and simple… did you grab pot of boiling water after threatening to do damage with it to innocent people?

                  Did you do it specifically after law enforcement pulled their weapons and told you that if you do what you claim they will shoot you…For entirely obvious reasons…

                  Next you will tell me if it was a white man behaving in the exact same fashion then cop would have taken the water?

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        Lmao, what a bunch of bullshit. “With anger in her face”

        There’s like a half second of video that’s not covered by the guy’s arm (after she squatted, I mean) but the guy here, who’s not a racist btw, saw an angry woman trying to kill some cops with some hot water. Literally all you have to do is stay more than 2-3 meters away and nothing will happen to you, but whatever, I guess she got what she deserved.

        Also, she said it very dryly, hardly angry or threateningly. And even if she were, in what world is a cop replying with “you’d better not, I’ll fucking shoot you in your fucking face” a normal, disarming response?

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        Holy shit. Did you watch the tape? … She puts it down, gets down to a squat… And then as the police take a step towards her she reaches up for the pot of boiling water with anger on her face.

        This is a strangely telling detail for you to have included. You cannot see Sonya Massey’s face or movements in the moments leading up to the shots being fired – Her entire body is obfuscated behind both the kitchen counter and Sean Grayson’s body as he steps between Massey and his partner.

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            She looks angry to you because you’re racist.

            You cannot see what expression she has in that picture.

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                Her behavior!? She put her hands up and dropped to the floor pleading. The cop went from zero to a thousand in 3 seconds.

                Fuck off with your dumb bullshit

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                  All of the stuff she says … and her reaching for the water in the footage… The water goes flying because she had grabbed it again.

                  Did you not watch it?

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                    What is all of the stuff she said? The Jesus thing that made the cop inappropriately dial to eleven and murder her? She’s half thier size and can barely move.

                    If the water went flying, it’s because he yelled he would fucking shoot her in the face and pointed his gun at her.

                    How stupid are you?

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            I’ve looked very carefully at the screenshot you linked. Due to the resolution and compression of the video file, the dim lightning, and the very fast motion at the time of the screenshot, Sonya Massey’s eyebrows, eyes, and mouth are in no way discernible. How can you arrive at the conclusion that she looks angry?

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              As I said straight away, You have to watch it in motion. Slo mo ideally.

              A large part of that deduction is based on her behaviour, threatening to throw boiling water on innocent people at work, he verbal threat to cause harm to those people, and then her reaching quickly for the boiling water with her head tilted down like that… combined with what we can make out of her expression in the footage in motion.

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                And as I said, I’ve also watched the video. The point of all of my comments is that your original statement:

                Holy shit. Did you watch the tape? … She puts it down, gets down to a squat… And then as the police take a step towards her she reaches up for the pot of boiling water with anger on her face.

                was not based in anything that could be observed in the video, but rather on your “deduction.” There are people who will never watch the video because they would find it upsetting, and I wouldn’t want people like that to read your comment and think there was any ounce of truth to your claim. One simply cannot see any of what you’re claiming in the footage that is available, and I personally believe that your ardent defense of these claims says a lot more about you than it does about the available facts.

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                  You claimed it was obscured.

                  I immediately want and made as screenshot to show it wasnt.

                  I think it’s obvious who wants to move on agenda here…