All new cars must have the devices from 7 July, adding fuel economy as well as safety. Will mpg become the new mph?

In the highway code and the law courts, there is no doubt what those big numbers in red circles mean. As a quick trip up any urban street or motorway with no enforcement cameras makes clear though, many drivers still regard speed signs as an aspiration rather than a limit.

Technology that will be required across Europe from this weekend may change that culture, because from 7 July all new cars sold in the EU and in Northern Ireland must have a range of technical safety features fitted as standard. The most notable of these is intelligent speed assistance – or colloquially, a speed limiter.

The rest of the UK is theoretically free, as ministers once liked to put it, to make the most of its post-Brexit freedoms, but the integrated nature of car manufacturing means new vehicles here will also be telling their drivers to take their foot off the accelerator. Combining satnav maps with a forward camera to read the road signs, they will automatically sound an alarm if driven too fast for the zone they are in.

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    4 months ago

    This sounds like blown up bullshit.
    How does this speed limiter work exactly, I don’t see that mentioned anywhere.
    If I drive Autobahn it’s not the same as driving passed a school in the city. How does the speed limiter know the speed limit?
    To know that accurately, sounds like a somewhat expensive mandatory piece of equipment.
    And how come I have heard absolutely zero about this from either car reviewers or local news media?

    I looked it up for my country (Denmark), these are NOT mandatory that I can find, and they can ONLY be installed by public authorized shops, and from the paperwork required, it seems like the installer decides the limit, there are no mandatory limits.

    So it seems like the whole story is bullshit.

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    https://road-safety-charter.ec.europa.eu/resources-knowledge/media-and-press/intelligent-speed-assistance-isa-set-become-mandatory-across

    Intelligent speed assistance seems to be a thing, but this is a pretty crucial part:

    The ISA system is required to work with the driver and not to restrict his/her possibility to act in any moment during driving. The driver is always in control and can easily override the ISA system.

    From the OP the Guardian article:

    Drivers of most new cars will be familiar with similar features already installed, but they are currently easy to override.

    Yes and that’s how it will continue to be with Intelligent speed assistance.

    Article is bullshit these are NOT speed limiters, which is a completely different thing, despite that I can see numerous articles in English erroneously calling this speed limiters, when it’s nothing of the sort.

    Otherwise, what’s an ACTUAL speed limiter called? You know like what is popular in many new cars, that have speed limiters that prevent you from driving faster than for instance 160 km/h.

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      4 months ago

      In Canada we call them engine governors and they’ve been around for decades (mostly on semis/tractor trailer units).

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        4 months ago

        I know most Mercedes cars have had speed limiters for many years, but those were traditionally at 250 km/h.
        An engine governor sounds more like preventing revving it to high.

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      “Combining satnav maps with a forward camera to read the road signs, they will automatically sound an alarm if driven too fast for the zone they are in.”

      “From now on, however, cars will be designed with systems that are impossible to permanently turn off, restarting each time the engine does. Will car lovers see this as pure progress?”

      It doesn’t sound hard to disable… speakers only have 2 wires. Snip-Snip.

      You aren’t disabling the system, that still works fine, it just has no output.

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      Well it will be harder to argue against fines etc. you where warned and either ignored the warning or disabled the warning and accepted the risk.

      With the height of fines in some countries…

      I’d imagine the next step will the even stricter measurements, harsher fines and more SPECS.