• sweng@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    The very first sentence in thr very first source says the referendum was held in September 2022, while Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022. If my math checks out, September comes after February. Or are you referring to some other referendum? Could you be more specific?

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      3 days ago

      DPR and LPR have been autonomous since 2014, the heads of the republics made a formal request for assistance from Russia in February after Russia recognized their independence https://www.rt.com/russia/550394-donbass-republics-military-help-putin/

      This was intentionally modelled on the precedent NATO set on Yugoslavia where NATO recognized the independence of the breakaway regions and then had them invite NATO for assistance. Russia is just following the legal precedent set by the rules based order we keep hearing about.

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        3 days ago

        I quote yourself:

        Donbas has had election long before it INVITED Russia to intervene on its behalf.

        So again, when was this election held? It’s a simple question. I’m not sure why you are avoiding answering it, and instead providing sources about an election held in 2022.

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          3 days ago

          Yes, Donbas has been autonomous and held elections since 2014. These elections have been held regularly. I’m not avoiding answering any of your questions here. You’re just doing trolling.

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            3 days ago

            Ok, when were those elections held. It is a simple question you refuse to answer. Can you provide a date?

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                You tell me. I’ll quote you again:

                Donbas has had election long before it INVITED Russia to intervene on its behalf.

                So when was the election you had in mind that legitimizes the request for intervention.

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                  Donbas has had election long before it INVITED Russia to intervene on its behalf.

                  Yes, I’m talking about general elections that Donbas holds here, not some specific election. The government is elected. The elected government that represents the people of Donbas invited Russia for assistance. What part of this are you struggling with specifically?

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                    2 days ago

                    I’m struggling with you not being able to provide a date for some election or referendum from before the invasion where the people in any way would have indicated that they wish for an intervention.

                    As you are unable to do so, I conclude that we agree that the people did indeed not wish to be annexed, so that settles thaz point.