• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    24 days ago

    Weird how the chief of NATO disagrees with you , I guess you know something he doesn’t:

    The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

    So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm

    I’ll never cease to be amazed how western propagandists managed to convince people that Russia is out on a mission of imperial conquests. Imagine believing that the largest country in the world, with a low aging population, is trading people for territory.

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      23 days ago

      Do you understand that it’s because of Russia that NATO is expanding? The countries neighboring Russia are afraid of what is just now happening in Ukraine?

      For smaller countries such as in baltics joining a defense alliance is the only way. They’ve been illegally occupied by Russia before, they don’t want that shit back.

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        23 days ago

        I understand that this is the narrative NATO propagandists like to sell. The reality is that the governments are captured by US politically, and largely don’t represent the interests of the people. This is why there’s massive political unrest all across Europe now, including the Baltics.

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          23 days ago

          You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about, just parroting whatever the fuck you heard from radio sputnika.

          Yes, USA has a ton of influence over Europe, and people are starting to understand it, but we wanted to join NATO DESPITE IT. There’s really no other option.

          The opinion in Finland and Sweden was for long time largely negative regarding joining NATO, but after the Russian invasion in Ukraine in 2022 people started demanding it.

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            23 days ago

            I must’ve missed the referendums in Finland and Sweden where the opinion of the public was considered. In fact, I distinctly remember how Swedish government said this was too important to put up for the referendum. Thanks for making my point for me there.