From the technical side anyone can spin up their own Lemmy instance and view all votes, but I’m curious at what the community’s perspective on how “private” that is. I think Mbin already shows upvoters? Piefed allows anonymous voting. I also know there are sites which show all voting history, but assuming those are fairly disliked.
My general questions to the community: - Do you expect your votes to be private, or just not shown in the UI? - Would per-voter votes showing up on another aggregator platform bother you, even though your instance already shares them with other servers?
For context I’m the dev doing some two way bridge interop between atproto + Threadiverse, in atproto the votes/likes are generally publicly accessible, you just look at the users repo through something like pdsls.dev, they’re readable and archivable by anyone. In my opinion this isn’t that big of a problem since it’s fairly hard to look at and discern (Ex all my votes: https://pdsls.dev/at://did:plc:lmdkqemqrqnfiix72pyjhfey/social.coves.feed.vote). Ultimately trying to figure out if there’s already a mutual understanding that they are public and we can just mirror them or whether they should stay hidden as an aggregate.
Not very.
Which is fine with me
Fully public
Better question? Do votes ultimately matter? Some instances show who voted, some don’t, some don’t even count downvotes. So in the end, who cares?
There are private things on the internet?
zero private.
I didn’t know that administrators or moderators could see the votes. So they can’t be considered completely private.
About 10 years ago I decided that the only way I could proceed forward in life is to automatically assume I’m being watched and listened to always. This has nothing to do with paranoia and everything to do with the nature of tech ownership and capitalism.
I’m the same. And even if you don’t take the digital world into account, today we have devices everyone can buy for around 3 to 10 thousand dollars with wich can hear what you’re doing from 3 kilometers away (combined with a good analysis kit you can even know what someone a few hundred meters away is typing on their keyboard).
This is a very good assumption to make. Because it’s true.
I realize they aren’t private and don’t care.
I vote on such a small minority of things that those few things I do vote on, I have no problem with people knowing it was me.
I assume there’s no privacy whatsoever, and I wouldn’t believe anyone who told me otherwise.
There’s zero faith involved in open source. It’s verifiable with your own eyes, thankfully.
In my opinion this isn’t that big of a problem since it’s fairly hard to look at and discern
You are like one LLM prompt away from a website that makes it fairly easy to look at and discern so that’s not really a valid argument
I don’t worry about that. I have no expectation that up/downvotes be not tied to my username.
☑️ No
✅ Yes
Literally none I basically assumed that anything I do on the internet can be read by anyone at any time. I’m still a fucking freak because they’ll have to kill me to stop me from being freaky. If I die unexpectedly the government did it. Never forget that.
He died how he lived: being freaky.
Completely public
On Lemmy? As others have said, they’re automatically federated and so anyone can see them.
On Piefed though? I have a user setting where I can choose whether my votes federate and I can override that default on a given post if I choose with a hot key. That’s how it should be. IMHO, more of y’all should use Piefed.
That’s kind of neat, but why would it matter if your votes do or don’t federate?
Like someone else said, how would you feel if someone was collecting all user votes across the threadiverse and tracking who likes and dislikes each post, say about politics or just a news story?
We are mostly / usually anonymous here but like everything online, I wouldn’t totally count on that. Not to sound like too much of a crackpot, but “Enemy of the state” could be a real label some government could put on you, based on your voting, in the future.
If I was worried about that I’d probably refrain from voting on those kind of posts, or use a separate account to do it. As it is whoever is u/d a post or comment is easily viewable anyway.
On the other hand, setting local votes means that your vote doesn’t count for the vast majority of the verse.
