i think the point is that there is some fluidity to gender and presenting as feminine doesnt necessarily mean they are trans?
They could be Nonbinary but nonbinary is under the trans umbrella so they’d still be technically trans.
Gender is a very personal thing. You don’t get to tell someone they’re trans - some nonbinary folks do not consider their identity to be a transgender identity and that’s entirely valid. You can dive as deep as you want into the technicalities of the transgender umbrella, but at the end of the day these are words we are using to describe ourselves and if “myself” does not align with “transgender” then anyone insisting that it does align is misguided at best.
Aaaaaaalllssso you can fuck around with gender within your AGAB and not consider yourself non binary. Femboys are valid and many are cis. There’s probably some transmasculine femboys out there!
That is not even remotely correct, wtf
I’m nonbinary and trans, so yeah it definitely is correct unless you were assigned nonbinary at birth.
It is correct that non-binary can fall under the trans umbrella. It is not correct that femboys are “in denial” about their gender. Nobody gets to decide that but them. This post is hopefully satire, but taken literally, it’s advocating for reverse conversion therapy.
The part about femboys I agree with, but that’s not what I was reading your comment as
It’s not satire, I and a few others have subjected ourselves to their entire comment history to be sure - they really believe they know someone’s gender identity better than the person themselves. They’re also extremely hostile and unpleasant.
Maybe they’re trying to prove that it’s possible to have the wrong ideas for the right reasons? Like at the core this is rooted in a desire for everyone to be accepted as themselves and end transphobia, they’re just taking it to unreasonable extremes.
I guess you could say the same of regular conversion therapy advocates. Many could honestly say that they only want what’s best for the other person. They just use their own definition of “best” and refuse to consider any alternatives.
That’s definitely some evil bullshit Skeletor would say
Because of course, you know better than them. You know better than everyone and if anyone thinks otherwise, they’re wrong. /s
Going up to a person and telling them “Hey, you’re fat”, “Hey, you’re white” or “Hey, you’re trans”, is rude, dumb and a sign that you might be autistic or a moron.
Sure, some femboys do grow older and realize they were trans all along, and some don’t. I am a bit fluid, but when I was young, I could have been considered a femboy, if that had been considered a thing back then. Looking pretty, androgynous, wearing gender neutral or mixing it up some days was a lot of fun, but FOR ME it was a phase. I enjoyed it when I was young, but it is no longer my thing, because people are fluid. For others it is not a phase, and they genuinely enjoy being femboys, for some others it is the beginning of a self realization journey.
Point is, let people be who they are, your experience is not the same as everyone else’s. And I have seen your other “meme” and your comments, and you are surprisingly quick to dismiss other gender identities, and on the same breath say that trans women are not real women.
You got some deep seated issues, darling. Seek help, and I don’t mean it as an insult, I say it because I really think you could benefit from it.
This is satire right?
This person is almost definitely a very dedicated troll who is trying to make all trans people look bad. I’ve interacted with them before, they were basically spewing this same bullshit. At the very least, they are transmed and believe that woman are only women if they look and act fem 100% of the time.
Best to simply block and move on.
The pickme is back.
Fellas, do i need to be trans to feel cute in a dress?
Being trans is not a choice, if you feel cute in a dress you are more than likely trans, whether you like it or not.
Jesus christ can you just not force your perceived gender on people? They get to choose whether they are or arent trans
Being trans is not a choice you stupid bigot, when you’re trans you’re trans whether you like it or not.
I find it funny that you are calling me a bigot
Femboy is a unique gender expression, not a symptom of denial
No cis man would possibly want to dress as a girl, if he was cis it would give him unbelievable dysphoria. The fact that he doesn’t proves he isn’t entirely cis in and of itself.
Well for one thing, that’s absolutely not true. I know cis men that do drag shows. Men that are part of femboy culture are doing a gender we call femboy.
If they’re trans in denial they aren’t really cis, they’re dressing and acting as women, which shows their gender incongruences, same with “femboys”. Cis people don’t have the desire to be pretty, dress as a woman, act as a woman, talk with a womanly voice, have boobs, etc.
I am cis, yet I used to wear women’s jeans because my ass is glorious, and back in my day they just didn’t make form flattering clothes for men. Wore foundation and a little make up to help boost my self esteem and hide my scars, and enhance my natural beauty, and acted “as a woman” because I was already androgynous as fuck, and I had a lot of fun watching people get mindfucked and perplexed when they found out I was a non gender conforming mechanic.
There are many reasons to wear women’s clothes, you don’t get to invalidate everyone else because you think everyone who has enjoyed some things from “the other side of the fence” is trans, in denial and you are the only one who knows better and can save them.
That is some real “white savior” grade bullshit, mate.
Glad you’re getting yeeted.
Gtfo with your transmedicalist bs. It’s not welcome on lemmy.
Your experience is your own, not everyone else’s. Gendered clothing is the result of societal views. If someone doesn’t subscribe to that shit, there’s no reason they can’t wear what they want and feel fine.
“gender is an artificial construct made up by society, it’s all made up and in your heads” 🙄
Yeah, basically. Or gender roles if that’s a better term. I don’t suffer dysphoria from cooking and cleaning even though boomers tell me that’s what women are supposed to do. Why can’t that extend to clothing?
You’re being gender essentialist from the other extreme.
I didn’t think I’d ever actually come across a transmedicalist in the wild. Fuck off, you’re not welcome.
It’s like… Prescriptive transmedicalism though. Like normally they say if you don’t have dysphoria, you aren’t trans. This person is saying if you behave a certain way, you must have dysphoria and are trans. It’s so out of left field it’s hard to comprehend.
No wait, they’re saying the absence of dysphoria while cross dressing proves transness, so not even transmedicalism? Fuck I dunno.
It’s certainly bizarre. I think it’s transmedicalism, but it could be any number of bizarre ERF ideologies. They crop up like weeds. I’ve already blocked them and reported the post though, so hopefully it gets handled soon.
I don’t think you know what a transmedicalist is do you you dumb fuck. A transmedicalist is someone who believes you need dysphoria or surgery to be trans, what I am saying is far from that, people can be trans because of gender euphoria, never did I say they NEED dysphoria to be trans.
Is this meme not supposed to give good advice?
Nah, you don’t get to define someone’s gender like that fuck off
I was very much hoping that this was like “Skeletor is a bad guy and is saying this thing which is implicitly wrong and harmful”
Edit: nope, her post history is a fucking trash fire. She truly believes this.
What a shit post lmao
…unless you’re serious, in which case, we should consider humanity’s tendency to categorize things. Gender expression and identify are very much bimodal and not binary.
The whole comment history is gender essentialism.
I tried on my girlfriend’s jeans in high school. Guess I’m a woman now 🤷
Yeah lmao. They already gave up the game in another comment here.
…I tried my girlfriends jeans on my high school because I am a woman. We are not the same :3
