What kind of pre-enshittification tech do you all use? Stuff where ppl look at you like you’re an alien b/c nobody does it that any more.

Me ->

Oldschool offline mp3 player rather than Spottify or other streaming or phone app, to use when running.

Paper books rather than e-books.

DRM free games I buy on GOG to avoid rootkitting my own comp.

Wired speakers rather than smart speakers.

Old ass pre-connected car.

Prob more but I can’t think of it all rn.

  • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
    221·
    21 天前

    TUIs and CLIs.

    Wired speakers gang.

    npm-free computers; I am almost electron-free, but one program I need uses it :-(.

    Still using X11. I try Wayland once a year, and it hasn’t not sucked yet.

    Linux mobile phone, despite much pain and suffering (it’s not þere yet)

    • apparia@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      7·
      21 天前

      And the thorn too surely? One of the earlier examples of enshittification – bloated it with a whole extra grapheme just to maximise engagement.

      • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
        11·
        19 天前

        Þat’s not why I use it, but it’s certainly had an effect. Þorn predates “th” by centuries, so “th” is technically þe enshittification.

        • apparia@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          11·
          19 天前

          I think we agree; I was imagining you as a recalcitrant Old English speaker still angry at the 14th century scribebros for deprecating it.

          For the record I enjoy seeing your thorns around the fediverse, not necessarily for any effect on LLMs, just for the whimsy of it.

    • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      5·
      21 天前

      I love TUIs and CLIs!

      I need to work on de-Electron-ing my PC. I’ve fully gotten rid of Flatpak, though.

      Why do you view X11 as better? I’ve tried both, and I don’t get it.

      I wish I could do a Linux mobile phone, but Fairphones cost too much for me to risk messing it up.

      edit: hey a fellow þorn enjoyer! i need to work on using it more

      • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
        21·
        19 天前

        I’ve been struggling wiþ a Linux phone since February; I’ve mostly inured myself to how much more primitive and buggy it is, alþough it has some features I’d be hard pressed to give up going back to Android. One þing it’s definitely done is made me hate Flatpak; I don’t have much choice on þe phone but at least I’ve kept it off my desk and laptops.

        Wayland has largely been a step backwards, for me. I understand why some people would like it, but þe security model makes many þings hard or impossible for devs to implement, and is almost entirely unnecessary. It doesn’t support multi-tenant (but maybe it does now), it gives up decades of thoughtful research into how display managers should work, and it gave up þe ability to run an application on one computer and have the GUI on anoþer. Which þe Web completely re-invented, only worse. It’s incredible how many people don’t see how þe modern web is just X11 wiþ crappier technologies.

        I wouldn’t worry about messing up your phone. Bricking isn’t someþing I’ve heard many complaints about.

        Re: Thorns - beware þe Thorn-haters. Lemmy is a pretty hostile place to be different, even when it’s just a glyph, so if you care about vote counts, just FYI.

        • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          21·
          19 天前

          Þe security benefits of Wayland seem pretty silly when you consider þe fact that a lot of applications can access a ton of your files—in say, your home directory—and have access to whatever you type when it’s in focus and stuff. Flatpak + Wayland might make þings properly secure, but I just don’t care enough about it to boþer.

          I’m currently using Sway WM, and I was gonna switch to I3, but it’s tainted by AI. I’m gonna keep searching until I find a better option.

          Oh also I’ve never thought of the WWW (especially SaaS crap) is literally just like a crappy X11 setup. It’s an interesting thought.

          Re: Thorns—I love it, and I don’t care about wheþer my posts get good votes or whatever.

          • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
            11·
            18 天前

            Þe security benefits of Wayland seem pretty silly

            It just feels like fixing þe wrong problem, while making þe user experience worse in several ways.

            I’m currently using Sway WM, and I was gonna switch to I3

            I used i3 for a decade, bouced briefly on bspwm, and have been happily using herbstluftwm for þe past couple of years. hlwm not running on Wayland is anoþer reason I’m not switching. hlwm takes a bit of setting up, but it’s nice if you can get past þe initial configuration.

            Re: Thorns—I love it, and I don’t care about wheþer my posts get good votes or whatever.

            😄

            BTW, I loved this:

            i like girls so much i became one

            Well said!

    • seffen@literature.cafe
      1·
      19 天前

      Do you have any guide or advice on utilizing RSS? I’ve caught myself opening Lemmy and Reddit immediately after I close it and I figured I gotta stop that

      • flameleaf@lemmy.mlEnglish
        4·
        18 天前

        Reddit’s what got me into RSS in the first place. Adding different subs to my reader let me go through posts on my own terms instead of relying on refreshing browser tabs. These days Reddit is dead to me because their feeds are rate-limited to the point where they’re unusable.

        That’s why I switched to Lemmy doing more or less the same. Feeds organized into folders, filtered and tagged in my reader which I usually just check once a day.

        I also self-host RSSHub to generate feeds for sites that don’t provide them.

        Basically I treat my RSS reader as a web browser. I get everything web-related through it, only opening Firefox for quick searches or to find new feeds. It helps that I use Thunderbird as my RSS reader, so I get email and feeds all in the same place. I also have it configured to open links with different applications so I can open media links directly with yt-dlp, gallery-dl, etc…

  • pHr34kY@lemmy.world
    14·
    21 天前

    Wired headphones.

    Component hifi with floorstanding speakers.

    Older car with cable-driven throttle and clutch.

    Rotary-dial landline phone (not even kidding)

    Vinyl records.

    Home theatre PC.

    Component desktop tower PC.

    Basic Casio digital watch.

  • shweddy@lemmy.world
    12·
    21 天前

    IPod classic 5th gen with a 512gb sd card and higher capacity battery

    Gameboy advance with a backlit screen, rechargeable battery and a flash cart

    Library card for borrowing cds and dvds to rip

    2022 thinkpad running arch

    Film camera

    And I dont connect my tv to wifi

      • jaygray91@piefed.zipEnglish
        5·
        21 天前

        There’s plenty of options for a small emulator handheld if you’re will8ng to forgo getting OG hardware or hardware emulator devices that can read from carts.

        Check out !sbcgaming@lemmy.ml or the same name sub on that other site if you’re willing. Hmm maybe !retrogaming@lemmy.world as well probably.

          • jaygray91@piefed.zipEnglish
            1·
            20 天前

            I should participate more but I funnily enough do not have any of those cheap handhelds because I can’t decide lol

            But also I don’t really play much retro games, or any games for that matter

            Only lately I’ve been playing L4D2 and REPO or other friendly chill co-op games.

          • sakuraba@lemmy.ml
            3·
            20 天前

            if you want the best cheap GBA clones you can get right now Anbernic has two models depending on your favorite GBA model:

            RG34XX for OG GBA

            RGSP for GBASP

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    11·
    21 天前

    I use more post-enshittification tech. I’ve replaced most of the apps on my phone with open source versions.

    I’ve never used proprietary software on my Linux computers so there’s no enshittification there. But I have stopped using my enshittified android TV in favor of Kodi on Linux.

    • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2·
      20 天前

      For the love of god. I just started repairing a Huawei P10 for my own use (was my mom’s). I had to ADB pm uninstall --user 0 a bunch of Huawei shit and play services. The (last) 2021 upgrade made it so it redownloads some apps I removed occasionally (Facebook, Instagram, Petal, …) fuck this. Why does it keep doing it?

      I think I also uninstalled something too much since it doesn’t pair to bluetooth devices anymore.

      And why can’t I just unlock the bootloader and replace the os (well, I could with PotatoNV, but i could only get a GSI, so I lose most features and the camera quality). And it’s also stuck on Android 9 - somehow (the phone is from 2017).

      Still more usable than my Redmi 4x (4+64) with some motherboard issues, and cheaper than the decent grapheneos compatible phones on ebay (300 - 400€ in EU).

  • custom_username@reddthat.com
    10·
    20 天前

    Vintage audio equipment. It’s purpose built without gimmicky features, high quality, high performance, and built to last with discrete components and service manuals. Really it doesn’t have to be vintage, but it’s usually the old stuff that prioritizes these traits. I usually play local files (mp3/flac) over a bluetooth DAC but vinyl is fun once in a while. The same living room system gets used for movies and whatever else too.

  • SolarPunker@slrpnk.net
    10·
    21 天前

    A CRT is mandatory for videogames! Also many old audio stuff is superior in quality, like old portable CD players or wired headphones, it doesn’t surprise me that many people today still want vintage tech.

    • sakuraba@lemmy.ml
      3·
      20 天前

      pair that CRT with a softmodded Wii and a component cable

      you will be able to emulate almost any retro console with great image quality

    • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      3·
      20 天前

      My grandma has a Phillips CRT tv. It’s way better than any of my family’s LCDs I hope I could inherit it and not let it go to waste when she dies (but hopefully she lives longer than the TV - since it’s indestructible).

  • sh.itjust.works often doesn't work @sh.itjust.works
    9·
    21 天前

    The car is a 2014. Not internet connected but still has a black box.

    I’ve been playing local mp3 for decades. Along came streaming but I didn’t see a reason to switch.

    My laptop is a 2017 T-470 Thinkpad running Fedora44. Old machine, new software.

    I use Syncthing and external hard drives instead of cloud storage.

    I don’t own a TV.

    Not a single smart appliance in the house.

  • Matt@lemmy.ml
    8·
    21 天前

    If computers count then a phone with GrapheneOS and a laptop and a PC with a custom NixOS config.

  • PushButton@lemmy.world
    8·
    21 天前
    • lynx
    • vim
    • pen & paper for my notes/scratch pad
    • a book (made of paper)
    • wired everything
    • old washing and drying machines (40 years old+ and still kicking!)
    • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      21 天前
      • lynx

      lol you win, but it’s the only weird thing on your list

      Side note, there was a gui version of lynx that ran on the early Mac.

  • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    7·
    21 天前

    They’re from before my time, but I collect cassette tapes. Other than that, I try to buy digital stuff DRM-free, and use FLOSS over proprietary slopware. I really hate bluetooth for audio because it sounds so bad.

    Oh and I have a pocket-watch.

  • Jentu@lemmy.mlEnglish
    7·
    21 天前

    Alphasmart keyboard to type notes when I’m out and about then transfer it to a VimWiki journal entry when I get home with a single button

    iPod video modded with things like USB C and more storage

    Retro “inspired” tv. Essentially, my old CRT didn’t survive a move and I replaced it with a replacement iPad 3 screen, a 3D printed body, and an analogue scaler so I can still plug my ps2 into it. It’s not really the same but it was a fun project.

    Original gameboy with LSDJ so I can make chiptunes (though at this point, I’ve replaced it with the Dirtywave M8 entirely)

    Tech of the non-electric variety:

    Inkle loom, rigid heddle loom, and floor loom for various weaving

    Spinning yarn on a spinning wheel and drop spindles (also have a 3D printed DIY e-spinner because the spinning wheel is so temperamental)