• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    Twitter is merely a Nazi bar when what Jack wanted was a Turbo-Nazi bar.

    jwz: Blockchain Rasputin over here is mad that moderation exists

    It has been obvious to anyone paying attention that the reason Dorsey founded and funded Bluesky was with the end goal of enabling Twitter to go [Spider-Man Pointing dot GIF] any time an actual Nazi showed up, because moderation was not their problem, they just outsourced it to a series of nested shell companies (that they fund) who act as reputation laundries and liability crumple zones.

    Now he pouts and says the quiet part out loud.

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    Jack is mostly on Nostr, good thing Nostr is more independent to Jack influence.

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    Nostr is ultimately the way forward and he knows it. Nobody controlling your identity other than yourself.

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    He really doesn’t understand people, does he?

    He’s like the libertarian techbro equivalent of a Stalinist tankie.

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    Everyone on Masto/Fedi has been memeing about this since the start: Whatever platform Dorsey’s on becomes Twitter, lol.

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      At least Dorsey is thinking about social platforms, problems. Did you even read the post or simply spouting what your tribe says in your echo chamber?

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    Man…no leadership, no accountability, just a rich billionaire drifter acting like he has principles. Idgaf, I like fediverse, and I like my block button…it’s the only alt I’ve found that isn’t a rightwing cess pool full of degens.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Because — in Dorsey’s telling, at least — Bluesky was “literally repeating all the mistakes [Twitter] made as a company.”

    That’s the TLDR from an interview Dorsey conducted with journalist Mike Solana at his Pirate Wires site.

    And then Dorsey decided what he really wanted to do was help Nostr, another Twitter alternative, which promises to actually be an open-source protocol, instead.

    Dorsey, for instance, has some mostly kind words about Elon Musk, who bought Twitter in 2022.

    Though that mostly repeats his idea that Twitter’s original sin was becoming a venture-backed, for-profit company that went public with a business model based on advertising, positioned as a Facebook competitor.

    But that story/argument isn’t a new one — you can find it in this four-episode podcast series I hosted last year, for instance.


    The original article contains 349 words, the summary contains 132 words. Saved 62%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      Too bad most commenting haven’t read the interview (what else is new, eh?). I like this, Jack Dorsey responding to a question on how the US government had its hooks into Twitter’s leadership before the buyout:

      I think it was problematic, and I also don’t think the people who got called out in the Twitter Files get enough credit for pushing back on government requests. The U.S. is certainly one of them. Twitter has a track record of fighting the U.S. on free speech causes, especially around transparency reports. Opening the lens even broader to other governments, we had even more fights. Tons of fights with India, Turkey, Russia, Nigeria. These are all governments that threatened arrest of our employees, raided our employees’ homes, offices, asking for phone numbers and personal information for accounts that were critical of the governments. I think that was one part that’s overlooked and not appreciated.

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        Two things can be true at the same time: that Twitter & Nostr have become Nazi bars and that the large US corporate social media platforms (Meta, X, Alphabet, Reddit, etc.) have become constituent parts of the US military-intelligence-industrial complex.

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      He was on the board, it’s not like it was his project or anything. Imo he wanted to create a protocol, not a platform. “Improve Activitypub” like they always claimed. But then Bluesky realized that they can simply build their own platform and be Twitter 2.0

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        @Microw @dumbass No. He wouldn’t be happy with ActivityPub as well. He imagines a social network where no one can perform any moderation. He favours Nostr for exactly that reason. Bluesky has got moderation (just like the Fediverse) - which he dislikes.

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            Moderation should always be client side. Server side should not be able to interfere or even read public content

            Yup. I don’t know if I agree re public content, but perhaps private messages should be encrypted, client side, before sending? That issue is one that bothers me about Mastodon.

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          No. He wouldn’t be happy with ActivityPub as well. He imagines a social network where no one can perform any moderation. He favours Nostr for exactly that reason. Bluesky has got moderation (just like the Fediverse) - which he dislikes.

          So? Like Usenet was back in the day before it became a pirate haven. Then email lists became it. LOL, People tend to ignore the extreme nut jobs regardless. I never saw any child porn on Usenet, but then I didn’t go looking for it. No doubt it existed too.

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          Its community based so his opinion could be ignored, unlike when he’s on a board and his opinion was ignored.