With Reddit just announcing ai mods for sub reddits I think it’s finally time I fully give it up. I’ve been slowly trying to transition back into the fediverse but damn is it hard sometimes. Listen I have left leaning politics but does every other post have to be about some political shit on the all tab, I feel like I’m forced into this box that is my subscribed feed or I have to actively search out new communities because all is just a political circle jerk that I don’t care about. Not to mention the moment I came back I saw a fucking flow chart on the instances drama of the week. If I wasn’t so dedicated to dropping Reddit I think the average Joe would have left by now seeing all of this. And YES I have been trying to be the change I want to see if you check my profile I regularly post in meme subs non political just funny memes to be like “lmao” and people can move about their day. I’m not saying there ISNT other type of content on lemmy or piefed it just feels like the stuff that floats to the top is political

  • anar@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    1 day ago

    Politics is important. If anything it’s the most important thing right now. You can try to make your own bubbles but eventually it will reach you. I’m sorry but we just don’t have the privilege of ignoring reality. Hopefully we’ll go back to those times in pur lifetime.

  • kibblebits@quokk.auEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Half of Lemmy is controlled by Ai and bots. Don’t make “Ai hate” your entire reason for doing things.

    • CaffeineTwo@piefed.worldOPEnglish
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      9 days ago

      It’s less ai hate and more the straw that is breaking the camels back there has been a lot of stuff Reddit has been doing that led me to this take

      • eremophila@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        9 days ago

        reddit has rapidly become somewhere you go for need, not for want

        ie: a particular linux sub, only as needed.

        Ideally the subs you follow there, will appear here in time, but the problem with that is that the people will follow, and this (to a degree) will become that.

  • Schwim Dandy@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    9 days ago

    You just need a decent block/filter list. I scroll new/all and probably see 3-4 political posts daily.

    I would be unable to use Lemmy/Piefed without a well-rounded block/filter list.

  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Delete the All feed! It’s just stupid. Subscribe to what you like. Maybe have a short glimpse at the All feed on a biweekly basis for 5min, but that’s it.

    • naught101@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      9 days ago

      I default to subscribed+scaled, and I check all+top 6-24 hours when I feel like staying on top of news. It works pretty well.

    • canihasaccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      9 days ago

      I browse all but I have an extensive set of word filters that block stuff that I don’t want to see. I like seeing new communities come up and trying to make All work because of that. I did the same thing with Reddit like 20 years ago, though I switched to a subscribed feed there once they got big (before I left). This strategy works well for me.

      • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
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        9 days ago

        Haha, yeah, pick your poison. Though we’re a diverse crowd. I really appreciate how there isn’t an endless stream of doomscrolling for me. My feed just ends at some point and reminds me to resume with other things 😅 (Also less noise, US politics and mainstream memes, which would be the real reason why I’d advise not to scroll All.)

    • faythofdragons@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      9 days ago

      How do you find what you like? I sew, and do dollhouse miniatures, but I haven’t seen any of that on the fediverse yet.

      • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        9 days ago

        If you build it and interact with it, they will come (eventually). I think there’s a few crafts communities? I can’t remember. If not, create it, share with us your awesome creations!

      • dadarobot@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        9 days ago

        !newcommunities@lemmy.world

        !newcommunities@discuss.online

        give those a scroll and see if anything works for you.

        also search for topics you enjoy, or things you would expect to find as a subreddit. i usually sub to the top couple matches by population. this can backfire when i see the same post multiple times in (for example) 4 different linux coms. not everything wil have a com, but thats ok. make one if you feel strongly enough about it.

        when i first joined a few years ago there was a tool that would try to find matches for your subreddits. i cant remember what it was called or if it still exists, but give it a look

        a combo between the two is to find the list of your subs on reddit, then search them all one by one in lemmy. it takes time, but it will set you up reasonably well

        pay attentiin when things are crossposted, maybe you would like one of those communities too

        that and just stick with it. youll find your place.

        edit: my links at the top broke

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        9 days ago

        Sub to all the new com communities, and keep your eyes peeled for any links to interesting stuff in the comments and then immediately subscribe if it seems at all interesting.

        But the reality is that niche comms don’t really fire on Lemmy yet, so you’ll mainly find stuff that’s either mass appeal or nerd/leftist stuff.

        I tried to create a community about trees (the wooden kind) when I joined. It’s still here but after a lot of effort posting there I realized there just wasn’t enough of an audience to keep organic discussions going at all times. Same with my local geographic area.

        Hopefully someday there will be more growth and these can start to become more viable.

        • SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zipEnglish
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          9 days ago

          The trouble, I think, is that even Reddit wasn’t Reddit (as we think of it now) for years and years. Recall that when it started, there were no subreddits, it was all one feed. The niche subreddits branched off of more general ones after participation grew and critical mass developed, the subreddit topics driven by what users were talking about.

          It doesn’t work the other way around. You can create a community to house a topic that people want to talk about; you can’t make people interested in a topic just by creating a community. I think we’ve suffered by premature fissioning into a thousand niche communities, each with 1 or 2 people talking to themselves.

        • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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          9 days ago

          It’s definitely a volume thing. With niche interest, you’ll bump into this limitation quite frequently.

      • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
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        9 days ago

        Check out lemmyverse.net to find communities. If you set your home instance (top right, button with a home icon, enter slrpnk.net in your case), then it will open the page where you can subscribe directly. There’s a longer guide here with more tips: https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/threadiverse/finding-communities

        If you aren’t sure what you want to subscribe to, @blaze@piefed.zip had an amazing list of non-politics communities that unfortunately I can’t seem to find right now.

        Once Lemmy releases the big v1 update, both Lemmy and Piefed will have multi-communities that you can subscribe to in order to get a lot of similar content.

        As for your requests specifically, check out these. Some are more relevant than others, and the small ones grow as interested people post to them:

        • the_fuckler@nord.pubEnglish
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          9 days ago

          Yeah those posts probably never see the light of day because someone downvotes them while sorting by new

  • Krusty@quokk.auEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Notice what instances those posts come from and block them… Notice what users seem to post politics wherever. Block them…

    I’ll often block lemmy.world, and unblock it when really bored.

    Gotta curate your feed.

    • CaffeineTwo@piefed.worldOPEnglish
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      9 days ago

      It’s the part I use because I’m looking for a Reddit style alternative and I’ve tried mastodon in the past and had the same problem the only reason I didn’t stay was because I’m not really into micro blogging to begin with

      • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
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        8 days ago

        We call this part the Threadiverse - bc of threaded conversional style, not user-centric like the microblog style but instead topic-based.

        The (some say unfortunate?) term predates the mostly dead and predatory Threads offering by Meta, and people are adamant about not changing it so… there it is. Also, don’t worry, threads.net is literally the only instance that is mass-banned by EVERY SINGLE ONE of the servers across the entire Threadiverse. And aside from that, it’s actually a good name, which we decided to not let them take from us!!

  • Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zipEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I absolutely agree, I am also a leftist but constantly stewing in political news isn’t good for your head, or even in a practical sense good for your ability to go actually get involved in stuff outside. You have to take care of yourself if you want emotional energy with which to do any real political labor

    I wish we could come up with some collective strategy to create better balance cause this platform tends to share politics as common ground, and with not many people here that means a lot of what gets posted and engaged with is all just news and politics.

    And yes, I know everything is political. AND, you need to be able to step away from the politics of the world and catch your breath and be mentally well. Any one thing dominating your time and emotional energy can become unhealthy quickly, especially when its all bad news or small victories that remind you of the broken bigger picture.

    Balance is important. I’m thinking about creating a seperate account and blocking all the political communities and filtering by keywords so I can just be here for hobbies and folks chatting when I want that

    • Blaze@piefed.zipEnglish
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      9 days ago

      Balance is important. I’m thinking about creating a seperate account and blocking all the political communities and filtering by keywords so I can just be here for hobbies and folks chatting when I want that

      That’s what I do, having two accounts definitely help!

      • Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zipEnglish
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        8 days ago

        Hey blaze, I haven’t seen you around for a bit ☺️ thanks for the instance reccomendations a while back when I switched from Cris_Color; I’m appreciating the no-fuss out of the way approach to moderation and governance from the .zip folks!

        Yeah, I think I should probably sit down and do that at some point, it’d be nice to be able to step in and out of the news as I please

        Hope you have a lovely day!

  • warmaster@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I believe you’re somehow subsconciously expecting an algorithm to curate your feed.

    On Lemmy that work is on you.

    • eremophila@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      9 days ago

      If you don’t curate your own feed, the feed curates you, and then someone, somewhere, is going to have to clean that mess up sometime.

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        9 days ago

        “Every facet, every department of your mind, is to be programmed by you. And unless you assume your rightful responsibility, and begin to program your own mind, the world will program it for you." — Jack Kornfield

  • stopforgettingit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I did a couple things to make my life comfy here.

    I changed my default sort to be “new comments” - this gave me the biggest perspective change on Lemmy, I now see where there active conversations are and it makes the place feel more full of people and less pages and pages of empty threads. I also found a lot less political stuff this way, because it gets posted a lot but people only interact with a few of the political posts, so only those one end up floating to the top. I am finding myself getting less politics this way on Lemmy than I was on reddit

    I blocked Lemmy.ml and hexbear. A lot of the wilder leftist stuff comes from there and once it was blocked I saw the amount of politics in my feed drop right away.

    • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
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      9 days ago

      “New Comments” is underrated! Active is pretty good too. For my default I use Subscribed+Scaled so I don’t miss anything, but if I’m looking for engagement I use New Comments or Active. The Hot sort kinda sucks on Lemmy lol, it’s too similar to New. But OP is on PieFed, IDK how Hot is there, it uses different math.

      • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        9 days ago

        Subscribed+Scaled is my jam too. I’ve unsubscribed from a few of the news communities because I’ve seen the same post too many times but otherwise, all is pretty good here.

        • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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          9 days ago

          I’m surprised how many people use subscribed+scaled. I’ve been doing that as soon as the scaled feature was added.

    • vogi@piefed.socialEnglish
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      8 days ago

      Love sorting by “new comments” I believe old message boards where also sorted like that on default? or maybe im misremembering. Sadly PieFed does not have that yet :(

      I dont like that posts from 24h ago are already forgotten and you never really get a broader perspective on things because I think people (me included) don’t bother commenting on stuff nobody will see as its not “Hot” anymore. I would love to see threads/posts being active for a longer time.

      I also like piefeds “Active” algorithm. It does filter out alot of circle jerk content where there really is not much to talk about instead of agreeing.

  • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 days ago

    That’s just the nature of Lemmy. It was built by tankies for tankies, and so this reflects on the user base. The politics here is a bubble and it’s inescapable, unfortunately that’s just a part of the package. You just have to deal with unhinged, misinformed, and extreme takes all the time. There are tools and strategies that can help you reduce the amount, but you can’t get rid of it. Lemmy doesn’t have the user base of Reddit where you can find big and active communities for everything. Outside of politics, subpar memes, and some niche tech stuff, there really isn’t much else. However, I still think it’s worth it for the privacy alone.

    • eremophila@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      9 days ago

      You just have to deal with unhinged, misinformed, and extreme takes all the time.

      says ‘tankie tankie tankie’

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Yeah, no matter your political leanings, you gotta approach the fediverse in reverse of the way reddit worked. Reddit, you went and subbed to the things you were interested in and only went to the all feed if you wanted random discovert.

    With lemmy, piefed and mbin (or kbin, whichever is still in use), you have to default to the all feed because there’s only so much activity per community, which means discovery is much harder and your subscribed feed takes months sometimes to get filled in with useful things. It’s more efficient and enjoyable to spend the time pruning out the non enjoyed stuff from the all feed so that you have access to more things overall.

    That’s helped by app that have filters. You can weed out a lot of bullshit just with keywords preventing specific topics coming up even in communities you are in.

    The fediverse is more work on the user’s part to make work. I don’t consider that a bad thing overall, but it does make it hard for ex redditors (aka r/effugees) to on board, and can be confusing for total newcomers to threaded forums.

    Tbh though, ten plus years ago, the initial reddit experience for a noob there was worse in many ways. Hell, outright hostile at times, if you were a noob that dared speak your mind against the zeitgeist of a given sub. At least here, you usually only run into that if you’re not fairly solidly leftist, or try to hate on linux. That’s much easier to deal with imo.

  • frongt@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I feel like I’m forced into this box that is my subscribed feed or I have to actively search out new communities

    I don’t feel that this is a problem. I don’t ever use the All feed, because I specifically don’t want to see all. There’s a lot of garbage I don’t care about out there.

    I have been trying to be the change I want to see if you check my profile I regularly post in meme subs non political just funny memes to be like “lmao”

    This is… a weird change you’d want to see. Usually people want to see more signal and less noise.

    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      9 days ago

      At this point I think a lot of people, OP included, would tolerate plenty more noise as long as it isn’t “everything sucks and you should be mad about it!”

      Yeah, signal is better than noise, but the signal itself becomes noise when it’s all so damn much doom and gloom and aggression and frustration and generally negative emotions. It’s not healthy to constantly drink from the fire hose of “this is everything wrong with everything”

      And as an aside, I find that the quality of conversation around a lot of the political “signal” has been slipping too.

      • joelfromaus@aussie.zoneEnglish
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        9 days ago

        The breathing space between the constant fire hose of bad news is what I miss most from Reddit. Too many old (I assume) curmudgeons on Lemmy want this to be a 90’s Linux forum with a Politics discussion board and are hostile to any fun. So many times I’ve seen sentiment from users that anything mentioned should only be here if it’s going to lead to deep, informed, structured conversation. I always picture those people like Kyle’s dad from South Park sitting down at his PC in his office with a glass of red wine in hand (minus the vitriol that follows).

        While there’s obviously space for those discussions here it’d be nice to have more purely fun memes and discussions. Ones not about an ongoing genocide, or state run police crack downs, or companies invading deeply personal private information. More often than not Lemmy is deeply depressing with no respite.

  • csolisr@hub.azkware.net
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    9 days ago

    If you want to make this place a bit less stressful, the most surefire way is to contribute the kind of content you’d rather see more of! Be the change that you want to see in the world, as they say.