• artyom@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    The current 13in with a weak intel processor is $1850

    Is not at all a weak processor. Intel currently makes the best x86 mobile processors on the market. The entire point is that you don’t have to buy a whole new computer when you upgrade. You just get an updated motherboard and slap it into the existing chassis.

    The upgrade cost for the motherboard (say you want to switch to AMD), will cost you $900. For that $3k you can buy 3 Dells all with ram and storage.

    And all 3 will be outdated when it comes time to upgrade. And they’ll all be shittier than the Framework.

    they aren’t positioned well without RAM as their newer ones use LPCAMM2

    That is 1 of 5 computers they sell.

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      2 days ago

      Umm that intel processor is the weakest of the bunch. The i9 version you can’t even buy from Framework currently. I get the homerism for Framework, but I guarantee you that they will be out of business within 5 years.

      I don’t think you get the point. To upgrade a Framework, even if you are able to move the ram and SSD over, you literally can get an equivalent laptop from another manufacturer with new RAM, SSD and the screen, battery and everything else, and still use the old laptop. With Framework, you move parts over and slowly upgrade. It’s not sustainable at the current costing for anyone except for people who are very into home repair.

      Framework is moving all over their laptops to LPCAMM2 because the newer platforms require it for faster RAM, the alternative would be soldered on RAM which defeats the entire purpose of Framework, as you wouldn’t be able to ‘upgrade’ your laptop or repair it.

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        Umm that intel processor is the weakest of the bunch

        Brother, what Intel processor are you talking about? They sell the latest gen of processors, which are the best you can buy.

        guarantee you that they will be out of business within 5 years.

        LOL based on what? They sell more computers than they can produce.

        you literally can get an equivalent laptop from another manufacturer with new RAM, SSD and the screen, battery and everything else, and still use the old laptop

        For a lot more money, yes. I don’t think you get it. You can just upgrade the motherboard. You don’t need to replace anything else. You can upgrade the display, you can upgrade the RAM, you can actually repair the battery, the keyboard, the trackpad, etc. etc.

        the alternative would be soldered on RAM

        …nope? Not correct. They can continue using regular old SODIMM RAM like they already are in the FW13. Don’t know where you’re getting this from.