they work so hard to make a product that can rival windows vista. i wonder when they will move past it and surpass what we had 20 years ago 😴
This was the main reason I switched to Linux… even if this is implemented I have no desire to go back to Windows, but I might recommend MacBooks less to my less techie friends.
This and all the AI shit they continue to shove into windows is why I switched earlier this year. I couldn’t be happier. No windows anywhere in my home anymore.
This sick strange darkness, comes creeping on so haunting every time.
So, Linux didn’t help your Stockholm’s syndrome yet.
I’ve been on Linux for the last 4 years. I have no intention on going back to Windows. Microslop has lost all trust with me.
The problem, is Linux isn’t ready for my Grandmother yet, but she needs a computer. Macs work, as an alternative and with the Neo it’s almost affordable. Chromebooks are just landfill, and while I’d love to keep them on the HPs, Acers, and Dells they are use to. I can’t get Linux to the same state which they were use to in Windows.
One of these days it will get there, and Linux has moved very far and fast since I started toying with it in the mid 2010s. But it’s not ready today.
What’s specifically wrong with Linux for a grandmother? Or does she has some weird edge case with some very important niche Windows software? I’d call modern Gnome being even better than modern macOS in terms of simplicity. Telling Windows is better than macOS and Linux for a grandmother is weird. Unless the grandmother is a heavy Windows user who knows all the hotkeys and menus. If she barely uses browser with not much else, I don’t even know.
Specifically usability. I would say Linux is about Windows 98/early XP era for usability.
Printer drivers are not the same level of “it just works” as it is on Wondows. My Brother Printer’s features weren’t working with the default driver (scanner and double sided printing just didn’t work), so I needed to install brother drivers from their website which required sudo access.
Installing packages, and software updates also require sudo permissions. Which means to keep a password nearby or easy to remember which is hard when Windows never required it for the longest time.
Installing graphics drivers are hit or miss and requires some tinkering and research to get right. This is both for AMD and Nvidia. Open-CL is the roadblock I ran into specifically for AMD, and installing the drivers outright for Nvidia on Fedora.
For those who I am thinking of, their tech literacy is good enough to remember how to open a web browser, and find their emails. But they can’t even remember what the password is for their WiFi, so having to enter passwords daily for their machine is a massive ask, let along trying to keep the software updated and maintained. Especially when they buy new hardware and I am not around to make sure that it works. As much as I don’t like Microsoft and Apple, when you buy a new printer, or install new software, most users can work it out on their own. Linux doesn’t feel as streamlined or supported in this regard, at least for now.
With that said, compared to where Linux was not to long ago, I would say that the OS is 80-90% new user friendly, but requires as much tinkering as a Bethesda game needs to get it usable. Good for a teenager trying to play games on a budget, or a kid who wants to tinker, but for those who just want to use their iPhone and not think about anything else, it’s too much of a learning curve.
I am keeping an eye on the Immutable OS’s like Fedora Silverblue and Kinote, as Flatpak updating solves most of these issues and Fedora specifically removes the issue of system updates requiring sudo access. But until a Linux distro hits ease of use parity as Windows 7 or 10, I’ll just keep recommending Macbooks if they need new machines.
Funnily at home, Linux and Mac can use the printer, even my android with the brothers app, but windows? Nope.
I also know some old people who do web, look at photos, and spreadsheets, both are fine on linux.
Linux wasn’t up to scratch 10 years ago, today it’s simpler than windows IMO.
Installing packages, and software updates also require sudo permissions. Which means to keep a password nearby or easy to remember which is hard when Windows never required it for the longest time.
Macs also require a password now and then. I’m pretty sure windows does too, unless they somehow changed that in recent years.
I guess you can configure Macs to use a fingerprint reader instead of a password but that’s mostly a trap — it just means you don’t have to use your password often enough to remember where you wrote it down. Also fingerprint readers don’t work well for old people with papery dry thin skin (certainly not for my mother anyhow)
Not really much point comparing modern Linux to Windows XP on security inconvenience
Not really much point comparing modern Linux to Windows XP on security inconvenience
Not saying that Windows XP is usable today. I am more saying that where Linux is now, is where Windows was 20 years ago. I would say Windows 11 us where Windows Vista/8 is, slowly moving down to Windows ME. Soon Modern Windows and Linux will cross paths.
There are plenty of printers that just work, it’s been a long time I’ve seen a printer that doesn’t work. Do you know that sudo can be passwordless? It’s a completely made up problem, probably with the lack of any understanding of the system.
Do I know sudo can be passwordless? Yes
But that sounds like a recipe for disaster.
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Why would it be? It’s like Windows is OK, and Linux is not. But actually, you can do the very same thing, interface wise.
I am hoping that SteamOS will fix the usability problem of Linux within 5 years. When it is time for me to move onto a DDR6 platform, it would be much appreciated if I don’t have to deal with Microsoft shenanigans.
Steam OS is actually the rare exception to my issues. It’s problem is that it’s only available on a steam deck,.
When it become available to mass download I will be very interested in trying it as a desktop os
i’ll believe it when i see it. but knowing microsoft, they’re just looking for a ‘better’ (for them) way to uniquely id someone and hoover their life and data.
what does this even mean?
Apparently, Microsoft is allowing you to use your Google Gmail account to sign in to Edge instead of a Microsoft account, and they are “considering” removing the forced Microsoft account requirement when signing into Windows 11 to set up the computer to begin with.
Big fucking whoop, but still.
It would be an ok question if the post wasn’t an article link. Go read it.
There’s literally no reason or justification whatsoever to be a jerk about things.
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I offered you to read the article because this is what people do. And if you don’t want to read the article, don’t ask other people to chew the information up for you.
Is this not a place for conversation? Or do you use these spaces to show what a pretentious dipshit you are?
It’s okay, you can ask me anything you like about the article, everybody!
I’m not going to click some random link posted by someone who doesn’t even bother to utilize the description field when posting.
Bing. Out of all chrome wrappers, this is probably the worst. Takes the longest to debloat.
Fuck them. Already switched to Nobara.
Now what about killing gmail and icloud account requirement for their phones?
