• pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Because if they were serious about negotiating they would give on some points, the same goes for the Israeli government. Tbh to me it seems like neither Hamas nor the Israeli government has any interest in a ceasefire or pause or whatever you want to call it. This ongoing conflict serves their individual power agendas well.

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      8 months ago

      Ah right, the “how about we compromise and just have a little genocide” option

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      8 months ago

      What should they give?

      Maybe they can accept a temporary ceasefire so Israel can continue later in the year?

      Maybe they can let Israel stay in their land to continue to murder them?

      Maybe they can let their people remain displaced and not allowed into their land?

      Maybe they can let aid continue to be stifled so they starve?

      Maybe they can postpone reconstruction and live in ruble to die of disease?

      What should they give?

      • pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        I don’t know, I’m not a political or diplomatic expert. But they took a bunch of hostages, made demands that they know will never be met by the Israeli government and won’t move away from them. On the other hand the Israeli government has been shitting on them for years, invaded their territory, makes impossible demands, and won’t move away from them either. Neither of them is right. But from the outside it doesn’t look like either party is really interested in a ceasefire.

        Note my comment is not about which party is morally right. An issue I, by the way, don’t really feel equipped to give a definite answer to either. But suffice to say I don’t sympathise with the murder of civilians neither by the IDF nor by Hamas.

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          8 months ago

          Neither is right? Your the kinda person who’d look at the Warsaw uprising and say they shouldn’t of resorted to violence.

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      8 months ago

      You’re right, and the French should’ve just let Germany have the northern half of their country, compromise guys!

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      8 months ago

      They gave on some points back in November, and Israel broke the ceasefire and killed unarmed Palestinians. They don’t trust Israel to uphold their end once again.

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      8 months ago

      Handing them a surrender please note and calling it a cease fire. Their demands are reasonable. Israel and the US’s demands are capitulation.

      Here. I break into your house. Steal your shit and hold your wife at gunpoint and then tell you to accept things as they are, your stuff is mine and I continue holding your wife at gunpoint but promise not to pull the trigger. Do you agree to my ceasefire? Course you fucking dont.

      But your not the one getting shot at so you can sit in your fucking chair and rip some liberal bullshit about ceasefire. They are using language to fuck with you and you don’t have a moral backing to tell the difference. Just words.