Personally my threshold for intelligence versus consciousness is determinism(not in the physics sense… That’s a whole other kettle of fish). Id consider all “thinking things” as machines, but if a machine responds to input in always the same way, then it is non-sentient, where if it incurs an irreversible change on receiving any input that can affect it’s future responses, then it has potential for sentience. LLMs can do continuous learning for sure which may give the impression of sentience(whispers which we are longing to find and want to believe, as you say), but the
actual machine you interact with is frozen, hence it is purely an artifact of sentience. I consider books and other works in the same category.
I’m still working on this definition, again just a personal viewpoint.
I read this question a couple times, initially assuming bad faith, even considered ignoring it. The ability to change, would be my answer. I don’t know what you actually mean.
conscience /kŏn′shəns/
### noun
1. An awareness of morality in regard to one's behavior; a sense of right and wrong that urges one to act morally."Let your conscience be your guide."2. A source of moral or ethical judgment or pronouncement.
"a document that serves as the nation's conscience."3. Conformity to one's own sense of right conduct."a person of unflagging conscience."
But if that’s all just “programmed in”? Essentially we’re just machines learning from all sorts of inputs and processing the data we have access to, biological computers. What if consciousness is just an illusion?
I do think we’re machines, I said so previously, I don’t think there is much more to it than physical attributes, but those attributes let us have this discussion. Remarkable in its own right, I don’t see why it needs to be more, but again, all personal opinion.
Personally my threshold for intelligence versus consciousness is determinism(not in the physics sense… That’s a whole other kettle of fish). Id consider all “thinking things” as machines, but if a machine responds to input in always the same way, then it is non-sentient, where if it incurs an irreversible change on receiving any input that can affect it’s future responses, then it has potential for sentience. LLMs can do continuous learning for sure which may give the impression of sentience(whispers which we are longing to find and want to believe, as you say), but the actual machine you interact with is frozen, hence it is purely an artifact of sentience. I consider books and other works in the same category.
I’m still working on this definition, again just a personal viewpoint.
How do you know you’re conscious?
I read this question a couple times, initially assuming bad faith, even considered ignoring it. The ability to change, would be my answer. I don’t know what you actually mean.
Conscience is defined as such in dictionary:
conscience /kŏn′shəns/ ### noun 1. An awareness of morality in regard to one's behavior; a sense of right and wrong that urges one to act morally. "Let your conscience be your guide." 2. A source of moral or ethical judgment or pronouncement. "a document that serves as the nation's conscience." 3. Conformity to one's own sense of right conduct. "a person of unflagging conscience."But if that’s all just “programmed in”? Essentially we’re just machines learning from all sorts of inputs and processing the data we have access to, biological computers. What if consciousness is just an illusion?
Conscience and consciousness are not the same thing
I do think we’re machines, I said so previously, I don’t think there is much more to it than physical attributes, but those attributes let us have this discussion. Remarkable in its own right, I don’t see why it needs to be more, but again, all personal opinion.