that comic is fatphobic. you’re making people believe that fat folx are cringe
Fat
Let me guess, as an average lemmy user the chances are pretty high you are a white male in early adulthood, probably living off a very concerning diet but not gaining weight because of some genetical inability to build up fat.
Like, thats me, but I am aware of it. People can get fat if they eat as much as I do, which is not even much. Get a hold of your privileges dude.
People can get fat if they eat as much as I do
Then its up to those people to fucking get out of their asses and exercise. It’s one thing to be fat because of a health issue like hypothyroidism, and a whole different thing to choose being fat. In either case, you can’t really demand people to think an unhealthy, droopy and blobby body is beautiful, all you can ask is for people to not be rude about it.
Here’s a very apt comparison: I suffer from hyperhidrosis, a condition which makes me sweat 100% of the time regarless of temperature. Which do you think more reasonable: that I wear deodorant, refresh myself and shower often; or that I demand people to live with and enjoy my body odour?
Diet is the major part of it, you don’t burn a ton or calories through exercise to be honest. You need to be working from a deficit to get anywhere
It’s one thing to be fat because of a health
I’d argue it’s a mental health issue.
Hypothyroidism happens when the thyroid gland doesn’t make enough thyroid hormone
yup, sounds very psychological to me
also like… a mental health issue is also a health issue?
That’s not what I meant. I understand what hypohyroidism is. I just meant overweight people without something physical like that are probably going through something mentally. Is that controversial?
it’s not, but that’s not the way you phrased it originally
Yeah, I see how that could have been unclear, sorry. I wasn’t intending to dispute the quoted portion, but to expand on it.
I mean the person in the pic is not fat. That is the point.
???
They display all classic traits of obesity
Incorrect
I’m actually a 31 year old female living together with my bf and cat. I’m going to the gym about 2 to 3 times a week since a few months. My bmi at this moment is 24.1 which is still quite high but I’m getting there.
All I did was say fat. If that offended you, go to the gym.
This person gets it
Haha okay sorry if that comment was mean. I am exactly that type of person I described
Haha don’t worry about it. It’s the internet!
True
BMI is kinda bogus, it doean’t take into account muscle vs fat. At peak working out with small waist, but visible muscle mass my chart BMI was Obese
I agree about BMI often being a bad measurement. Even my own doctors ignore it on me because my BMI is well into the obese range and yet every other measurement of health is in the healthy range, most well into it. My body fat for instance is just below 30%, which is perfectly healthy for a woman. My waist line is well into healthy range as well. Additionally, all my tests such as blood tests come back more than healthy and show that I’m not at risk for any obesity related conditions. Of course, I don’t look like the standard “healthy” body most people imagine a woman should have. I would look fat to anyone who doesn’t know the full picture.
That’s why I always hated that whole thing people say that “If you’re BMI is high and you’re still healthy it’ll be really obvious.” People just assume that high BMI and healthy means muscular, when you can have a normal body fat percentage as well as other measurements but still have a high BMI.
This is even ignoring the fact that even when you are genuinely obese and unhealthy, it often stems from body image issues in the first place. The same way a depressed person often goes “I’m doing everything wrong anyway so why bother even trying?” A fat person often is having the struggle of “I’m ugly anyway so why even bother trying to be pretty and healthy? Healthy just means I gotta live longer being ugly.” That’s why berating people for being fat usually doesn’t work. It just makes them feel worse and reinforces that idea they already have that they’re too ugly to bother. Sure, some people it might kick into gear to try their best to lose weight to prove they’re not ugly, but that’s the difference between somebody who still has hope and somebody that’s already lost it all.Yep agreed. I had a laugh when we got our Wii sports, and the weigh-in made my Mii fat, which didn’t represent my shape. But a bad UX from Nintendo on that.
No, I’m getting fat. Slowly, and not very, but I need to start running again. Geneticals be damned.
Hahahaha, I love how the OP just smacked your little made up anecdote down
You can’t say that in Tumblr 2!
and cute
Like yo momma.
Gottem
More like phat
That’s actually a pretty good comeback tho…lol
nah, not really tho.
can’t take it serious. why would the bf of a normal person want THAT, yuck. suspension of disbelief and all
don’t ick my yum… cunt
don’t lick my yummy cunt
The sort of comeback so good you think of it later on and write a comic, wishing you’d said it at the time
Tru
I highly doubt the situation happened. Their insecurity manifested it and it was output into something that made them feel excused. In reality, no one outside of their own mind has thought or said this to them. At least not since junior school.
Just a bunch…
Someone told a mistruth on the Internet?! Surly this must be a first, we should do something about this post haste
L’esprit de l’escalier
Treppenwitz
L’esprit de les BD, maybe. I don’t know, I’m not studying French.
More like “L’esprit des BD” but good attempt anyway.
But at the end of the day, it’s not true and they’re still obese
Buddy… at the end of the day it’s a fucking cartoon calm down
Similar or same delusional nonsense happens every day. It’s real. That’s the point, but instead of empowering it’s actually sad.
Nah dawg you’re the only sad one here, on a post about a joke, acting like some kind of fucking weirdo.
Yeah gimpchrist, you tell them.
This isn’t cringe at all… 🙄
Something about this feels like it’s ten years old. It was a different time.
It would maybe pass as not cringe if not for the last panel
i dunno, i quite like the last panel
It’s to show playfulness and that the artist doesn’t feel THAT strongly, imagine how cold the comic would be without it.
And then consider that women have been raised to be polite and apologetic to the point it is even a habit for most of us. I guess that’s why I can’t really see it as cringe even if I try.
The last panel just makes me feel like the artist went “haha wrecked them with that one”. It’s just… not for me
Can any ladies comment, are girls ever actually this bitchy to each other? This has to be a bit of hyperbole right?
Not a woman, but a some teenager girls I met in high school were absolutely vicious.
From what I hear it’s usually more about back-handed compliments than outright insults, like “wow, you must have a lot of confidence in yourself to wear that, go you!”
Not a chick but when booze is involved it can get rough lol
ooh yeah I am a woman and thankfully I don’t drink alcohol ever, and if I did I could see how my mouth would get very ascerbic. I have so many bitter, cutting, scathing opinions about people, and I learn to keep them to myself, but if I ever had alcohol, I’m pretty sure I would let it all go and probably would have been murdered in a bar a long time ago
Usually, they say it, but not directly to you. The attacking woman will tell another person in the group, and that person will usually tell the target woman what was said by the first woman just “because I thought you should know.” Very, very rarely is it said directly.
I also have seen a lot of people pull the move of talking too loud about things they hate about the target woman on purpose so that the target woman hears it, but can’t really confont the attacking woman because she “should mind her own business.”
Fat girls do more stuff
Copium in comic.
She physically cannot pull it off due to size
The boyfriend works in healthcare and it’s just his job.
Safety shears.
I thought the snowflakes stayed on reddit, but apparently me saying “Copium in comic” is too offensive for moderators.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve been in so many wholesome communities, I initially thought the first panel was a thinly veiled pickup line.
Something about that just feels… kinda great, definitely sounds like something one should strive for.
Same, thought it might go in a different direction
That comeback makes the right one 500 times more attractive js
A sharp wit is more attractive than any physical feature.
Why all those downvotes? What did I miss?
If you have a comeback this weak in the comic YOU drew, I don’t want to imagine the amount of cringe your friends felt around you
Medically obese moment
Man, I thought Lemmy was supposed to be better than Reddit. These comments are proving me wrong.
I just don’t find obese women attractive, a little 胖乎乎的婴儿肥 is one thing, but not a serious health condition.
We all have our own attractions, that’s fine. However, people don’t have to meet our standards of beauty to exist and take part in society.
Okay, but let’s stop the creeping cultural psychosis and acknowledge it as a massive health crisis that some people have a fetish for.
So is posting on lemmy every hour. But you don’t see people waving it in other’s face, because it is none of your business.
Oh yeah, absolutely. I’m not saying that obesity is good, but I also don’t think we can judge people for it. If someone is learning how to love themselves, who are we to stand in their way for it?
Maybe they need that self love to push them forward and lose that weight? Maybe not. Regardless I don’t think telling people how they should or shouldn’t dress will bring anyone any sort of good.
It’s that old saying “if you don’t have anything good to say, perhaps don’t say anything at all.”
Most of the negative comments are from Lemmy.world users, which is the instance that recieves the bulk of the Reddit crowd before the users find a more fitting instance.
Lemmy.world tends to attract people from Reddit that are too ideological to stay, but want the same thing as Reddit without the enshittification, so they go to the largest generalist instance first. Over time, some leave for more specialized instances, like Beehaw, Lemmy.ml, programming.dev, or blahaj.zone, so that leaves .world usually with newer accounts, or people who just want Reddit 2 before it went to shit.
Not saying everyone from .world is bad, of course not, but what drives users to .world over more niche instances is usually coming straight from Reddit.
I joined Lemmy.ml because it looked like the largest generalist instance plus apparently ran by Lemmy developers. Here you list it as a specialist one. Well, I couldn’t have known at the time. :D
It’s a bit of both! It’s an older instance, but it is focused on FOSS and Privacy. It isn’t extremely specialized, of course, but it is not a pure generalist instance either.
Wait I am in this comment I left reddit and joined world then wanted to switch to a different one so just joined .ee arbitrarily. Is there a short reference somewhere of how these are all different from each other?
Unfortunately you only get a good overview by being here a long time and paying a bit of attention to the seasonal drama. The biggest pointers, to my knowledge, would be that a lot of instances are defederated with lemmygrad and hexbear (but not all), because otherwise the bad faith campism and trolling gets unbearable, world is defederated with the piracy instance, and virtually every large server is defederated with “free speech absolutists” who let their instances fester with far right types.
Someone once posted a graphic showing how each instance leaned politically and I thought it was pretty useful. Some more important distinctions between them are censorship, many will censor bad words or content they find objectionable and I just couldn’t tolerate how dumb that was so I picked a fairly anarchist anything goes instance.
Here is a good spot to pick an Instance. You can stay with .ee if you want, but I recommend picking a new instance that fits what you personally prefer! You can also check what instances are federated with which other instances. For example, .world isn’t federated with Lemmygrad or Hexbear, but .ml is federated with all 3, so you may wish to change your instance accordingly.
Where do I see who is federated with who? Couldn’t find it from that link. Would def prefer one that is federated with a broad scope of others
You can find it in the server list at the bottom of the website. Lemm.ee is pretty broad, as are most of the top instances.
Defederation isn’t a bad thing. .world isn’t federated with Hexbear and Lemmygrad because .world doesn’t like Marxist-Leninists, for example, so it can help keep an audience curated.
That’s just incorrect. I’m a Marxist and to just fine here. Communist does not equal tankie, which Hexbear is full of.
What separates a “tankie” from a Marxist-Leninist? Is it just vibes? I got called a tankie for recommending a “leftist” to read Marx, specifically Critique of the Gotha Programme. Said leftist thought that the biggest factor of Capitalism is the employee-employer relationship, which is of course ridiculous, as that would mean feudalism is Capitalist, or even Market Socialism.
Since I get to see a lot of hexbear posts and comments as a lemmy.ml account, I can genuinely say that the biggest distinction between hexbear and lemmy.world, besides the fact that hexbear is explicitly leftist, is that hexbear users love to combat liberals and liberalism, often dogpiling on anti-communist takes, which .world sees as disruptive.
It’s not that .world doesn’t like Marxist-Leninists, it’s that Hexbear likes to doglike over everything and well you can tell a lot about Lemmygrad by its name.
I’m baaad booooiiii
Ngl I just liked the name And I’m only staying out of laziness
Yeah it’s a bummer. When I left twitter for mastodon there was a full 180° from the attitudes people had. Unfortunately it seems that the outrage/negativity algorithm has trained Redditors too well to break those bad habits.
It’s usually the ones coming straight from Reddit into Lemmy.world, if you go to a less generalist instance it’s usually a lot better.
.world is just Reddit 2, in terms of culture.
A huge amount of people here were Redditors not long ago.
I’m one of them. Still, was hoping the hate would be left behind.
A platform is nothing but a reflection of its users and of humanity :) An empty canvas we can fill.
Let’s smear shit and semen all over it!
Hey mods… Ever heard of free speech? People can have opinions… Let people decide by upvotes and down votes. Why the unnecessary censoring?
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What did I miss?
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the censored comments are probably literal death threats against fat people or anyone who would dare support them 😬
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The girl on the right is fucking hot. The comic is for girls that do not look like her but think they do 😂
I think all women are beautiful but if you can’t live up to these strict standards, it’s not the end of the world.
Obese moment
I feel like these cloth are the prefect match for the body type on the right. There are many clothes that might not fit the person the the right (also many wouldn’t fit the person on the left), but the ones in the comics are not these cloth.
