A community index of servers added a new rule recently, that requires every participant to defederate from Threads. Some admins are unhappy.

Server indexes of places for newcomers to join can be instrumental for Fediverse adoption. However, sudden rule changes can leave some admins feeling pressure to change policies in order to remain listed.

  • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
    0·
    3 months ago

    I’m also concerned that defederating from Threads will make more Threads users than Mastodon users.

    Already done, and by an order of magnitude at least. (probably many orders, I don’t have the numbers at hand)

    I mean, some idea of what they might do would be nice.

    You can look at their entire history for that. And somewhere in this very discussion some other person has given a very plausible overview of their potential EEE approach. I’ll add a link to that comment later when I have time to find it again.

    But, I’m starting to realize that no amount of evidence is sufficient for folks who want to federate with Meta, and at the end of the day my freedom ends where yours begins, so although I will continue to advocate for defederation and flee any instance that does not make that choice, I very sincerely encourage you to do you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook#Criticisms_and_controversies

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_involving_Meta_Platforms

    Here’s a couple recent individual ones:

    https://theintercept.com/2024/03/26/meta-gaza-censorship-warren-sanders/

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/netflix-ad-spend-led-to-facebook-dm-access-end-of-facebook-streaming-biz-lawsuit/

    The prospect of everyone and our parents using social media that is not completely beholden to Meta is exciting to me.

    I firmly believe that hoping Meta isn’t going to be the worst possible company they can this time is not the way to achieve that, and is in fact actively working against that future possibility.

    I’ve been alive, adult, and working in IT for the entirety of the existence of Facebook, so I’ve had a long time to see everything I needed to see about them.

    • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world
      0·
      3 months ago

      But, I’m starting to realize that no amount of evidence is sufficient for folks who want to federate with Meta

      This is an incorrect assumption, because

      And somewhere in this very discussion some other person has given a very plausible overview of their potential EEE approach. I’ll add a link to that comment later when I have time to find it again.

      I would be very interested to read this! There are definitely limits to my optimism here. I think Meta is a horrible company and I don’t expect them to act in the best interests of the Fediverse; I’m just not yet convinced that them giving up what is essentially free and ad-free API access to one of their platforms cannot be used to our advantage. Threads federation could absolutely be catastrophic, but it’s also possible that it’s a good opportunity; that’s all I’m saying.