• HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Words have meaning, and war is not genocide.

    Yes, war isn’t genocide.

    You know what is genocide?

    Mass intentional killings of Ukrainian civilians, rape of Ukrainian women, kidnappings of Ukrainian children, and destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure vital for life.

    All things Russia is guilty of, and all things that adequately describe Russia’s actions as genocide.

    You people support the Ukrainian coup government,

    Ukrainians chose that government in the Orange revolution, of which evidence that it was a West orchestrated coup is shady at best.

    Not that such an act justified Russia’s immediate response of invading and illegally annexing Crimea, and upstarting and sponsoring two major rebellions in Ukraine.

    who were doing actual ethnic cleansing before the Russian Federation finally stopped them.

    There is no adequate evidence whatsoever that any ethnic cleansing was taking place in Ukraine before Russia’s invasion, let alone one carried out by the Ukrainian government.

    That’s some lams ass Kremlin propaganda you’re vomiting here. Long tried, long debunked, always pathetic.

    Anyone in the Donbas region would throw you in a hole for this equivocation,

    You sound like a fucking child.

    Donbas is an authoritarian shithole experiencing a Russian sponsored rebellion entirely in the name of Russia’s desire to annex the region.

    I don’t think you’re gonna be able to get a well trusted perception of events from most people in the area.

    and you would deserve it.

    Spoken like a real keyboard warrior.

    It makes me sick when liberals just mindlessly project the crimes of America’s vassals and allies on America’s enemies.

    Good thing that isn’t what’s happening here.

    You’re just sperging and regurgitating Kremlin propaganda.

    Israel and Ukraine are allies.

    Literally meaningless to the argument.

    Facts remain:

    Russia is committing genocide in its war against Ukraine

    Russia is the aggressor in the war against Ukraine

    Kamala didn’t support giving up Ukraine to Russia. Trump does.

    Therefore Trump is supporting yet another genocide that Kamala didn’t.

    Basic math.

    Israel trains both the Ukranian military and ICE.

    Again, entirely irrelevant for the reasons listed above.

    You do understand Ukraine has been in a perpetual state of desperation this entire conflict, right? They aren’t just sending their troops to Israel for training, they’re sending them to many countries, mostly in NATO.

    Again though, this is irrelevant to the facts:

    Russia is committing genocide in its war against Ukraine

    Russia is the aggressor in the war against Ukraine

    Kamala didn’t support giving up Ukraine to Russia. Trump does.

    Therefore Trump is supporting yet another genocide that Kamala didn’t.

    Basic math.

    You are supporting, either tacitly or overtly, two different sets of nazis. You are a nazi supporter.

    The modern state of Ukraine has never been demonstrated to support Nazism as a matter of policy.

    They have an awkward situation where some of their historical figures collaborated with the Nazis, at least at one point or another, but they’re generally only celebrated for resistance against the Soviet Union, who like modern Russia comitted genocide against Ukraine.

    If you bother to do any research on history, you might note that Ukrainians also widely resisted the Nazis too. Turns out their history is complex, not simple like the Kremlin propaganda you’ve been embarrassing yourself by spreading.

    Facts remain:

    Russia is committing genocide in its war against Ukraine

    Russia is the aggressor in the war against Ukraine

    Kamala didn’t support giving up Ukraine to Russia. Trump does.

    Therefore Trump is supporting yet another genocide that Kamala didn’t.

    Basic math.

    And you wanna talk about Nazi supporting?

    RUSSIA SUPPORTS NAZISM Some examples:

    https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/putin-doesnt-combat-nazism-he-cultivates-it/

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/vladimir-putin-russia-far-right/

    https://icct.nl/publication/russia-and-far-right-insights-ten-european-countries

    https://apnews.com/article/russian-interference-presidential-election-influencers-trump-999435273dd39edf7468c6aa34fad5dd

    This is genocide-justifying horseshit to soothe your guilty conscience.

    Who here is trying to justify genocide?

    I’m stating facts:

    Kamala was the less genocidal candidate.

    There’s more genocide/support for genocide under Trump than there was under Biden and would have been under Kamala.

    Therefore, refusal to vote for Kamala, when Trump was the only other outcome, was the pro-genodice move.

    Gaza was levelled under the Democrats.

    You’re fighting with ghosts.

    My position was never to dispute the genocide in Gaza being enabled by the Dems.

    My point is there is more genocide being supported and/or carried out under Trump that would have been under Kamala. That’s a fact.

    I’m not reading the rest of your fascist apologia because frankly, you people all spew the same delusional arguments

    Because everything I said here is not only not fascist apologia, but actual fact.

    Meanwhile you’ve wasted so much time regurgitating the propaganda from an actually fascist state, Russia.

    We never even got into how Russia and Israel alike both heavily supported Trump’s campaign, thus reaffirming that going against Kamala was the pro-genocide move

    . Anyone in Palestine would throw you into the sea for this inhumanity,

    I’m seeing a lot of lame as keyboard warrior shit from you and its kinda embarrassing ngl

    and you would deserve it. Your cowardice and servility in the face of unimaginable cruelty

    You lost the right to that moral high ground and instead embrass that very sin with your

    1. Pro-genocide decision to oppose Kamala over Trump
    2. Your fascist apologia for Russia

    has doomed you to live the rest of your life as a Good German.

    Germans are generally progressive people who are also currently facing down the barrel to fascism again due to the AFD, which, by the way…

    https://www.dw.com/en/the-afd-is-drawing-support-from-russia-germans/a-74223088

    https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-far-right-afd-attempts-rebranding-as-real-power-comes-within-reach-siegmund-weidel/

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/rise-germany-far-right-afd-deepens-ties-trump-administration-2025-10-30/

    I would say good luck, but I don’t wish good luck for you. I wish you a sudden moment of terrible clarity.

    Good god go back to Reddit with that cringe holy shit