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    “Most powerful empire the world has ever known”

    Lol Americans

    The Romans conquered the known world with pointy sticks and diplomacy.

    The US hasn’t been on the winning side since ww2 despite having nukes and spyplanes.

    Even the British Empire spanned the globe, and all they had was cannons, rum, and syphilis.

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      You seem to completely misunderstand American diplomacy.

      Just because America doesn’t have the same style of conquest, doesn’t mean they aren’t conquerors.

      America was the first empire to realize that all empires eventually fall whose agenda is toppling nations and replacing their flags with their own.

      The USA invented a unique twist: never replacing the country’s flag.

      Instead, as evidenced by countless examples such as Iran and Panama, the American agenda has always been installing a new national leader whose interests align with American ideals of democracy and “freedom” (predominantly of the white Christian variety). But they keep their “flag”, or in some sense maintain a national identity through the new leader, so it feels a lot less like they were conquered.

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      Yeah they may not incorporate other countries like previous empires, but their sphere of influence is undeniable unfortunately.

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      Rome wasn’t the most powerful empire, merely the third longest lasting; the Assyrians and Egyptians had a run that puts Rome to shame, and the Khans wielded far more power than any individual emperor.

      The US is just the only world power left in modern time that could deploy anywhere within 24 hrs with more than just a strike force (and they can do so far far harder than any previous “empire”). The US “empire” is based on deployment potential, banking, and diplomacy. Nukes are just the key required to gain entry to the table so you don’t get wiped at deployment.

      Bricks is literally the alliance trying to match US power and still hasn’t. This is mostly a barrier to entry problem rather than personal power, but it does stand that no previous empire could match the modern US in millitary, finance, or diplomacy.

      But hey give it 50 years we are doing our best to shit on two of those.

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            I just wouldn’t call it an empire, that’s all. I’m not a historian but to me, empires are made by occupying other countries.

            The US is a powerful nation of course, but they don’t have the same focus on conquest as the other countries throughout history have had.

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              One, no empire is “great,” they all suck donkey dick, that’s the definition of an empire, two, the meme specifically states “most powerful.”

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                i think the only thing keeping china from taking that top slot is reach and the use of the dollar worldwide. both of those are collapsing. the US might not be the biggest asshole on the planet for much longer

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                  Yeah, instead we’ll get a nation that treats North Korean workers so poorly they riot and execute the management.

                  Good times for humanity ahead…

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                  Eh… don’t count on it. China has some significant weaknesses. In the short term, economic growth has slowed significantly. Debt in the private and public sector is having consequences, both in the housing market and elsewhere. In the longer term, China is aging at a faster rate than the US, both due to a low birth rate and immigration rates that are virtually nonexistent compared to the US. China’s GDP is outpacing the US for now, but it’s an open question how long that pace will last.

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        A few trolls can take America by installing a puppet red head president who will then dismantle the country in a few years time.

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            See also

            • Adolf Twitler

            • Benedict Donald

            • Cheeto Benito

            • Cheeto In Chief

            • Cinnamon Hitler

            • Comrade Cheetolino

            • Con-Hair

            • Despot Cheeto

            • Diaper Don

            • Draft Dodger Don’

            • Fanta Menace

            • Hair Furher

            • King Mierdas

            • The Manchildian Candidate

            • Mango Mussolini

            • Orange Julius Caesar

            • President Gold Man Sucks

            • Prima Donald

            • Pumpkin Pinochet

            • Tangerine Toddler

            • Tangerine Tyrant

            • Trumplethinskin

            • Tweeto Toupee’to

            • The White Pride Pipe

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        More importantly, did they have the ability to deploy a Taco Bell, McDonald’s, and Wendy’s anywhere in the world, within 72 hours, just so their troops would have variety of food?

        Nope. The Japanese knew they had royally fucked up when they realized that we had ships that were dedicated to ice cream supplies. You have to have everything else needed for war covered, before you start the logistical supply train of ice cream.