• Kedly@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    IM not condemning the appreciation of other cultures. I’m saying the concept of Cultural Appropriation leads to the thought process of the woman who’s tweet started this thread more than it leads to how to be better respectful in how you appreciate things. A person wouldnt “appopriate” anything unless something about it found interest in them. Just general lessons in respect in general are far more useful

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      10 months ago

      Idk wtf “a person wouldn’t appropriate anything unless something about it found interest in them” means, so I’m going to just assume that your heart is in the right place.

      Happy New Year

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        10 months ago

        Tbf it took me a bit to translate your response too =P But essentially what I mean is Appropriation is basically taking something from somewhere that you like, but in a disrespectful or dishonest fasion. Its basically inappropriate/disrespectful appreciation. If this is your polite way of exiting a conversation though I respect that and wish you a good day as well.

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          10 months ago

          Not at all, that was my genuine disregard for a nonsensical comment.

          I’m always up for clear discussion.

          It sounds like you’re agreeing with what I said, that if cultural appreciation disrespectful, then it is cultural appreciation.

          If cultural appreciation is not respectful than it is cultural disrespect.

          Are you trying to say that cultural appreciation is better than cultural disrespect?

          Because total agree.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah badically. I’m not a fan of the social justice trend to focus on the negative and judgy terminology of a nuanced issue rather than focussing on the positive and how can we do things better side. I do not like the concept of privilege, but appreciate the concept of intersectionality as an example, as even though they both focus on: We all experience challenges that others might not and its helpful to be aware that someone might be experiencing a challenge that you do not personally face. One comes at it from an inclusive “everyone is in this boat” perspective, and the other comes at it from an exclusionary “Some people experience this less than others” persepective. Tangent aside, I’d much rather we focus on how to better appreciate the things and concepts we like, than put the main focus on the “wrong” ways of appreciating what we like.

            Tl:dr:

            I dont like cultural appropriation as a concept

            but

            The concept of cultural appreciation and how most respectfully to do so I think is fantastic

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              10 months ago

              If you truly believe what you’re saying, then please travel.

              Cultural appropriation done disrespectfully is obviously heinous, and I’ve never seen that occurrent real life, but if you are representing the culture that you are traveling among, they love it.

              I haven’t been to a single country where they don’t love it.

              And it’s f****** awesome.

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                10 months ago

                Yeah ok at this point I’m gonna respectfully opt out. I appreciate the conversation we are having, but theres small statements in each of your responses that I feel are disrespecting me such as calling my talking points nonsense, or assuming I havent traveled the world which I have. I do see and appreciate your love of other cultures And I share and share and respect that sentiment, so I do still wish you a good day

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                  10 months ago

                  Wise.

                  You’re not a fan of social justice, and I have way too much time for any one person.

                  It’s a sound decision.