• Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    Anti-antifa only means you’re against the people claiming to be anti-fascist. It doesn’t mean you like fascism. Nor does being antifa mean everything you’re against is fascism.

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      10 months ago

      I think it should be noted, the difference between antifa the organization and antifa the philosophy.

      I am very much ideologically anti-fascist and I believe I would take up arms against a fascist government, however antifa the org has made some questionable calls in the past.

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        10 months ago

        There is no overarching antifa organization though. Try looking for a website/forum/etc of antifa. There are websites for random local activist groups which call themselves <city name> antifa, but there is no leader or comittee overseeing these groups. There is no process to join antifa, any activist group or individual can call themselves antifa.

        So there are no calls made by antifa, good or bad. There are only calls made by individuals or local groups that call themselves antifa.

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          10 months ago

          Fair. I think you can understand them as a group still, similarly to how you can see anonymous as a group.

          I don’t think I’m educated enough to say anything against the group as a whole, as I haven’t sat down to do a lot of research on them (I’m realizing now that my comment was made from a BS bias that I had picked up from when I was a conservative).

          however I don’t think the logic of the source meme on it’s own shows someone as fascist just because they oppose the antifa orginization.

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            10 months ago

            (I’m realizing now that my comment was made from a BS bias that I had picked up from when I was a conservative).

            Damn that’s refreshing to read.

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            10 months ago

            I do agree that someone isn’t a fascist if they disagree with antifa. I was just talking about the part where you talked about antifa the organization.

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            10 months ago

            I don’t think I’m educated enough to say anything against the group as a whole, as I haven’t sat down to do a lot of research on them (I’m realizing now that my comment was made from a BS bias that I had picked up from when I was a conservative).

            You should do more research :)

            Unless you’re talking about this one, referring to “the antifa organization” makes as little sense as saying “the conservative organization”. There are many organizations with variously overlapping goals and strategies for achieving them, but there hasn’t been a singular “antifa organization” since 1933.