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repost, but it’s been a while
Libertarians are just Fascists too cowardly to call themselves that.
As a former Libertarian, I approve this meme.
Same here. Ffs lol
Proud of y’all for giving it up :)
Thanks! Yea, I grew up. lol
It’s ironic, because I’m sure most libertarians have convinced themselves they’re being mature by working against their own interests.
Yea, I’d say that’s a near certainty.
Same, now im an Anarcho-Syndicalist :3
We’re not all ancaps
Is ancap not synonymous with libertarian? Either way, you all lack understanding of what the government needs to do for an area to function
That’s like saying that all Democrats are liberal progressives… And you’re assuming a bit much there. Some of us do believe in government.
In modern American usage, more or less. “Libertarian” used to be much broader - ancaps cleaved it off of libertarian socialism in the 20th c.
All libertarians want policies that will allow major corporations to walk all over them, whether they realize it and have a problem with it or not.
Government sure has nothing to do with major corporations being able to walk over them. Government and big money are surely on opposite sides and Government is protecting its people.
Government is a tool, and whoever is powerful enough can and will use that tool to pursue their interests. Yes, the government serves the rich under capitalism, but the problem is the power of the rich, not the tool. Throwing out the idea of government or limiting it is foolish because 1) it’s throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and 2) if you’re in a position to limit the size of the government, you can just use it to do good things instead.
So basically, why limit the government which fucks you up, if you can become the government yourself and fuck up everyone you don’t like instead. Well, I don’t consider my chances of getting into power to be that great.
I don’t know what you said, but I can safely assume you’ve been conditioned to believe that government is evil no matter what.
That kind of indoctrination is hard to overcome, especially when you dig your heels deeper every time you discuss it.
Try to keep in mind that you’ve been conditioned to work against your own interests by people richer than you. These people recognize the threat government poses to their wealth, so they peddle rhetoric to people like you to get you to vote against your own interests.
It’s very effective.
Libertarians that aren’t making money off of the ideology just haven’t grown up yet. Once you look at the libertarians who have renounced their libertarianism, it becomes obvious who’s a child and who’s an adult.
So basically, why limit the government which fucks you up, if you can become the government yourself and fuck up everyone you don’t like instead.
Yes
The state under a dictatorship of the booj exists to suppress the proles and mediate conflicts between booj so they can more effectively suppress the proles. Proletarian dictatorship states are based af though.
Proletarian dictatorship states are based af though.
Nah, they’re cringe. Exploring the history of proletarian dictatorships over the last century is like watching clowns getting out of Volkswagen beetle. It’s very tiny, but more and more clowns come out. Same vibes with proletarian dictatorships. The more you look into them, the more cringe comes out.
Username checks out.
Polish libertarians are mostly libertarian-christo-nazi-monarchist mix, and before you ask, i don’t see much sense in this either, but they manage somehow.
Well that’s a definitely a new branch of the libertarian ideological family for me. I much prefer geoism lockhism and minarchism.
Many nazis/monarchists wrap their ideology in ancap. Like, “I’m an ancap. In the ideal ancap world, my ideal ancap community will have a king and maintain racial purity”
You’re getting shat on pretty hard. Geoism is at least trying to critic and solve economic problems.
Still most libertarians will get in line with harmful ancap ideas out of the naive all regulations are bad. Its also always the laughable privatization of roads or getting rid of OSHA. Bonus points if they have a Melei shaped dildo.
I’m empathic to the leave me alone vibe of some libertarian, but if you still identify as them please do some self reflection that your party only seriously promotes harmful stuff associated withthem.
How do those -isms deal with bears?
that reference
The project has been associated with an increase in the number and aggressiveness of black bears in town, including entering homes, mauling people, and eating pets. A single, definitive cause for the abnormal behavior of the bears has not been proven, but it may be due to libertarian residents who refuse to buy and use bear-resistant containers, who do not dispose of waste materials (such as feces) safely, or who deliberately put out food to attract the bears to their own yards, but do not feel any responsibility for how their behavior affects their neighbors. [29]
It’s such a great example of libertarianism in action that I ask every libertarian I see what their solution is. Surprisingly, nobody has answered yet.
My favorite thing is basically every libertarian is their own flavor, and every other person isn’t a “real libertarian.” They’re even less unified that Christianity as a whole, and that’s saying something.
My second favorite thing about libertarianism is this shitpost article turned copypasta https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department
Shitting in the town well is an act of aggression against the entire town. So is wanton neglect that causes a mauling. So the normal case of operation in a libertarian based societt would be to charge the responsible party with the crime against the injured party. Find evidence to support that claim and then convict them in a court of their peers.
Most people don’t understand that libertarianism is a double-edged sword or rather that it should be applied as such. You’re free to do what you want, but you’re not free of the consequences of your actions.
I always think less of people when I see them jerking themselves off over isms and sects.
Truly missing the forest for the trees.
Eh, arguing is fairly pointless and it’s fair for them to point out that with the MC in charge of the LP the other types of libertarians no longer matter.
By that logic since Trump won and narrowly scraped a win out of the election putting them in charge. The Democrats no longer matter. What’s the point of having resistance to compete with the People’s choice of fascistic rule.
Sounds kind of silly when I say it like that doesn’t it?. Just a wild thought you know maybe that instead of focusing on a cultural war that doesn’t need to exist, we can focus on the more class-bound issues.
But it’s okay. I’m the enemy because Cheks notes the little letter next to my political party didn’t agree with your pre conceived notions of what libertarianism is. But I’m sure all Republicans and Democrats are exact charachactures of pure evil just like my social media drivels as I lack the ability to see the best in people or to realize generalizing groups of people is not a good look.
I do understand your frustration though the MC can suck my entire dick
By that logic…
Sure, why not but I’ve been fighting this notion that all libertarians are An-Caps for 20 years and the rise of the MC has turned an uphill battle into a nearly impossible one.
There’s really no question that the MC are owned and operated by the string pullers of the Republican Party. They’re doing it in order to to keep the people who do care about Small Government and Individual Liberty from leaving the Republican Party over the MAGA horseshit.
It’s the 98% that make the other 2% look bad.
Because every single conservative is an armband wearing Nazi kkk member racist that hates anything that is new and every Democrat is a child eating baby rapist. Couldn’t possibly be that average. People exist generally want the same things and that caricatures of rival political idealogies are not always the most accurate.
… Wait, you think libertarian is the average?
No, I don’t
It’s not the government until the companies buy the government.
Hmm, I wonder why Comcast and Verizon can trample on you?
Watermarks need to go away.
To be clear, they also like .gov tyranny if it’s the right flavor
Yeah, the last 6 months has really shown what Libertarians are made of. Fucking disgusting hypocrites.
They’ve always been that way. Its not surprising the “we need to be more selfish” crew isn’t standing up for anyone
It never makes sense why some on the right are fine with private authoritarianism
Weak minded people are easy to exploit
In other words the people supporting this shit are idiots who have no critical thinking skills.
Get ready for a full generation of weak minded morons now that the Dept. Of Education is gone. It can always get worse.
And it will get worse. It’s been getting worse. Orange dick is just an additional progression of it all.
Eh, we’ve had that generation for awhile now.
Public schooling has never fostered critical thinking skills.* If it did, students would be asking themselves why they have to work so hard while rich kids don’t.
Public schooling has been best at rewarding people who are willing to take abuse while punishing those who do not. It’s main purpose is to create effective servants for the ruling class.
It doesn’t need to be this way, but it is and will stay until we decide to change our culture.
*I’ve had great teachers that have gone above and beyond to get students thinking about the bigger picture, usually history and literature teachers. I’m thankful to have met them and studied under them. It’s sad seeing how their hands are tied when trying to really educate students about the world around them.
Umm, removal of DOE does not remove schools.
Maybe not yet. But that is the ultimate goal. That’s not even a slippery slope fallacy. Poor people don’t need an education, let them start working when old enough for school. These are goals they are working towards little by little. If you don’t know that you are not paying attention. You are just hearing what is said by known liars and believing it for every little step until the goal is met.
The removal of the DOE will just allow states to be in charge of their schools, instead of the federal gov. It doesn’t need to be federalized. Most things should be state run, not federal run. The point of having states is so people can more choice in what they want for themselves.
If you like the way state B operates better than the state F operates, then you have the ability to either move to State F, or to work on convincing those in state B to change the way they operate. But when the fed runs it, you’re stuck with it.
Just move huh? Just change the government? Simple. I’m sure no state will defy the constitution regarding education. And all states will care about all students and listen to local school boards. Local boards are even smaller and not need the state then. It’s great that it’s all about making things better for all and being more efficient. Sure, that’s the only reason for this. Maybe states should just become their own country, or change the federal government if they don’t like it instead of eliminating it.
I bet you believe abortion is about “states rights” too. I’m sure it’s all decided now and no need to push for a federal ban. Nobody is pushing for that I’m sure. lol. Do you believe that abortion is only about abortion even?
It’s not even worth typing out all the ways your whole statement Is silly. Anyone with even a partial brain can see what the end goals have always been. And when given a chance, what they have and will do with the power. And yet people like you just push the absolute dumbest narrative you can and somehow believe it.
It is why we have states.
The problem with this is that there ends up being no national education standard. You take a state like Alabama, which ranks dead last in so many education metrics, and remove those federal standards. Now Alabama can just change their state standards, and suddenly they have a 100% graduation rate with all straight A students. Guess what happens when Cletus the Alabama valedictorian tries to get a job in the medical field or the tech sector.
And that’s before we ever even talk about funding. States get about 15% of their K-12 funding from the federal government. Where are the states going to make up that difference? Higher state taxes? Higher property taxes? Or are they just going to let already struggling schools go to shit? Guess who that affects the most?
You really haven’t put a lot of thought into this beyond “federal gubmint bad”.
“Oh no, what will we ever do if the federal government doesn’t set our standards? We are too dumb to set our own standards!”
I’m pretty sure the states can figure it out on their own. And any school can feel free to set their own standards even higher if they wish.
Because people on the right don’t go into anaphylactic shock when they hear words “authoritarian”, “dictatorship”, “no democracy”, etc.
No, they salivate in anticipation.
It makes sense when you realize most of them are stupid people pretending to be smart.
Yeah, I think it was Matt Walsh that literally made the argument that the government banning porn is wrong and authoritarian but that porn should be banned by all the private companies.
How about .org
Fucking spectacular meme bravo contender for meme of the month at least if not quarter
It’s a repost of an old meme. Idk if that disqualifies it for your award
It’s a relevance based award system not a novelty based system so I’ll inform the committee but that’s quite normal
This is the all-time most succinct encapsulation of libertarian thought - giving the government power by voting is tyranny, but random people getting it as a side-effect of money is Freedom.
You don’t give the government power by voting. You give the media power by voting.
Old enough to remember libertarians who were smugly asserting Social Security caused the Iraq War.
Now we’re stuck with the libertarians who smugly assert that the Department of Education causes transgender teenagers.
Can’t have transgender teens in school, if you you don’t have school! Checkmate
atheists, i mean, liberals./s maybe, who knows what those chuds are doing anymore
Say goodbye to the old school, ergh, boring - I hate school!
Say HELLO to the patriot Mcschool of dreams, brought to you in association with Coca-Cola - to ensure your patriot Mcschool dreams have Real magic - providing children with the very best school-like experience and for prices lower than you’d expect.
That coupled with this ancient green text and we got a novella series in the works. Too bad its too far fetched to be unimaginable… 🫠
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I don’t really understand what specific aspect of libertarianism this meme refers to, please explain
As the name implies, libertarians want to be free.
Tyranny.gov rules by law which prohibits what you are allowed to do and thus think, thus limiting freedom.
Tyranny.com has no laws, just costs, which can be restructured by a single person. Thus the person feels free.
You European? This meme’s most likely referring to American Libertarianism, which is described by Ayn Rand and is actually Anarcho-capitalism. Think more ‘Atlas Shrugged’ than anarchism.
Thanks. I should have known.
Thank you, I am European and had trouble interpreting the comments, now everything makes sense
has no laws, just costs, which can be restructured by a single person. Thus the person feels free.
Is also something american libertarians would say. It is also why they are stupid or just pro oligarchy.
All libertarians care about is how they can make money and benefit from a situation.
They don’t care others are getting fucked as long as they can have their tea.
They don’t actually want a free market, they want a market where they can burrow their tendrils deep into society and suck off as much as they can.
Then they are not libertarians but something else. This doesn’t make those people less problematic, though.
I dunno. At some point you have to recognize that’s what libertarians are when the overwhelming majority of them fit his description.
Instead of trying to argue that most libertarians “aren’t true libertarians,” you’d be better off finding a different word to describe what you want to communicate.
I’m a firm-believer that libertarianism is a way to grift working class people who think they’re better than other working class people.
To your believes: Welcome to the end of the Sovjet Union.
We are living in a consumer society because people want to be free without being free. Which interestingly allows ‘libertarians’ to exist because common workers don’t want to be quotation-mark-free libertarians and defend their freedom.
I like how the development of the word makes your point. The word lost its meaning and became kind of an insult. How can the working class not be grifted when they lose the words to analyze their situation?
The problem with tyranny.gov is that the ‘libertarians’ of today will become the officers and ministers of tyranny.gov. So instead of calling them ‘libertarians’ we should call them something else or everything will stay the same just with new names.
Exactly. It reminds me of every libertarian that called into The Majority Report to debate Sam Seder over the years.
The callers would all say that they were the true libertarian and all the others weren’t. Then as the debate went on they would spout the same shit as all the other libertarians.
“You know im something of a Libertarian myself”