When Minecraft came out, it was hard to understand, not that good looking and only really catered to nerd gamers. There was no recipe book, no cute animals, no lush caves to explore, just an unforgiving Day-Night cycle and few, very creepy caves.
But those days are behind us. Minecraft is now considered a kids game and someone who bought the game as a grown up when it still was a grown up game now face ridicule and are “second class gamers” in the eyes of the developers imo. Not to speak of bedrock edition (eww) with its microtransactions and dumbed down UIs.
I remember making a paypal account for the express purpose of buying it after reading about it in a tech magazine (on paper - can you believe it?).
What do you think are currently games that are not focused on children and have great potential?
I don’t recall it ever being considered a grown up game though. Even when Minecraft first came out most of the people I played with was more interested in playing WoW. I think League of Legends was around that time too.
edit: yeah 2009 was mid wrath of lich king, cataclysm didn’t come out until 2010. So that was way too huge a year for WoW to not be pulling most of the older players.
The main reason I stumbled across minecraft was the fact that I had stopped playing games mostly at that point and only played console if at all. When minecraft started, I read about it in a tech magazine and had bought a new computer recently for writing resumes I think. Thats why I wasnt caught up by wow I think.
Why spend time worry about what toxic gamer think?
I dont. My point was the game changed to cater to a different audience and I am fed up by it.
Sure, the Mojang team itself tried to make it more accessible, which is a very reasonable thing to do for any game really. I know there are many games, where a wiki is mandatory, buta game should explain itself, so I understand why they did that.
However (although I haven’t really followed it) the community still seems to be pretty much the same as before to me. If anything the stuff they archieved is even bigger, than back then. Stuff like Distant Horizons or the Create Mod could simply nit have existed back then.
What I’m getting at is that you don’t have to play vanilla and there are more possibilities than ever before (including lots and lots of modpacks and servers, which definitely do need an external wiki)
I like your take. I‘m perfectly fine with differing opinions.
Back when I started playing there was no community so the difference is pretty large but I get how its cool to many and bad for a few. As it is often in life. Is that reason to be frustrated? For me it is.
“Back when I started playing there was no community”
I’m sorry but that’s just… false. Maybe you weren’t aware of it, but even in the Beta there were already mods. I myself started playing in 1.0 and played until around 1.7 and basically all the playtime I have was playing on servers or modding the shit out of this game. (Back then you actually needed to do that manually, as mod launchers weren’t a thing)So I’m still a bit confused as to why you are frustrated, since noone is forcing you to play the new vanilla versions.
I know it’s great to be right and all but showing others why their experiences actually didnt happen does not benefit anyone. I played minecraft in the browser first, approximately the classic version. You can argue all you want that more than two people technically constitute a community but it doesn’t in reality.
I get Minecraft probably played a huge role in your life, and that would explain why you feel so disappointed with it. I don’t think it’s as bad as you described it, and I don’t think it’s leaning towards children more than before, but you’re talking from a place of nostalgia and I kinda understand that.
I don’t know how long you’ve been playing it but… maybe you’ve just… outgrown the game? Or got tired of it. You’re talking about when Minecraft came out… that was 13 years ago. It’s really hard to not lose interest in a game (any game, really) after so much time. Not to mention… you got older, too, and your tastes evolved.
I can’t really recommend you another game from your post (your question is way too broad, just play whatever, you don’t have to stick to one single game). But maybe you should consider that Minecraft is fine, that you spent maybe too much time with it, that it’s time to move on, and to be at peace with it.
Thanks for elaborating. I can see your point.
What I‘m somewhat weary of is the idea that there is a „way of doing things“ for a lot of folks. That way is not for everyone. playing a particular game over a long time (among others) isn’t unhealthy or wrong. Also, just because the gaming industry forces marketing down our throats doesnt mean a game needs to change or we need to be ok with it.
Think chess. How did it change in the past 10 years, or 20?
My point is not nostalgia but I miss a neurological bias called the framing effect. This makes me see things a lot different than a lot of folks. And from that pov, a great game changing and focusing on something else than it has in the past in my mind is perfectly reasonable.
I do get that people are upset with how I phrased it. I was frustrated and needed to talk about it. People didnt like that and I understand it.
Yeah I get it too, and I understand there’s nothing wrong with playing the same game for a long time. But a lot of people will get tired of the same game after 10 years. Even chess, not everyone dedicates a lifetime to it.
Nostalgia can be very strong when you have a very strong connection with a game. I miss the times when I ate pizza with my friends and played Rock Band together all night long. I could still play Rock Band, but it’s not the same anymore. What I miss is that point in time, the context, the friends who’re not there anymore. The game hasn’t changed. I did, and my life did.
Play Java edition and play large modpacks. The servers I’ve played on have an average age of 25-35.
Thanks for the suggestion. I already host a couple java servers which is what keeps me playing. Its the changes to the game itself that keep me guessing as well as the low key fear that java may get discontinued at some point because bedrock make number go up.
Yeah, this, not too many kids playing GT:NH.
ITT: So many corporate apologists.
More like „someone said bad thing about minecraft! Get 'im!“
Still reading through hatemail but so far not one with an „I have a different opinion, here is it.“ am I frustrated? Absolutely. Is it ok to dogpile on me? Yes, if you’re an antisocial jerk.
My adult son grew up on Minecraft. I think he was about seven when he started playing. By the time he was in middle school he was building working computers in it. He ran his own servers and met all his current friends there, from England and France and other US states. They don’t play it anymore.
I’ve only played a couple times myself, but I still follow the Minecraft account on Facebook, because it was something he was interested in, and because my job is tangential to children. Even I can see how much it’s moved toward Roblox and away from the creative sandbox it used to be.
I don’t think it was ever a game for adults OR for children, but I definitely think they’re making it for children now.
If you still like Minecraft, you can go back to a version you are interested in. Many people are still playing beta 1.7.3. Maybe try the “Better than adventure” mod.
Also have a look at vintage story.
Vintage story
The judgemental attitude and self victimization detract from your post. You’ll find people to be friendlier and more helpful to you if you manage to tone it differently.
Anyway! It sounds like you want games that prioritize being interesting over being popular? Dwarf Fortress would be my immediate thought.
Dwarf Fortress?
Will check it out! Thank you! :)
EVE Online.
Slightly off topic here, but the most “grown up” way to play “grown up” games is to just play what you want and not care about what people think.
If you like Minecraft stick with it. Or just play any other games you enjoy. Only kids care what their peers think of the games they play.
Its not about what people (or peers) think. Its about the fact that minecraft isnt as fun as it used to be. Sorry if that wasnt clear from my post.
The game has changed a lot but also you might have too.
Check out ‘Rimworld’
I’ve sunk many hours into the game. It rarely goes on discount but I and many other players have found the price tag pays for the hours of content it provides many times over
P.S I find the newer caves to be much more challenging and certainly more interesting than the old caves. Plus you can just not use the recipe book and play on hard or hardcore mode
I actually own rimworld and multiple dlcs. Ive sunk 300+ hrs in there as well. Its awesome, no doubt. I raided a hole planet once which was fun. Good suggestion though. :)
Life is too short to worry about what people think. If you like the game, play it! That being said, Valheim has an older player base and scratches the same itch.
