Fantastic resource, thanks for sharing

Good point, they probably focused this press release on the content of this initial dataset.

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Good catch! Thanks for checking the source.

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it’s a shocking reminder that there are forces outside of the internet that still affect our digital lives.

It absolutely depends on the context.

They are!

Electromagnetically and gravitationally and chemically they act like stars.

Gas giant simulations are often performed by stellar codes such as mesa. Stellar physics and stellar simulations with fusion turned off. Morphologically, they are stars. We should move on from the cold war brain’s fusion chauvinism.

They are fundamentally different objects than planets. They have their own planetary systems. They’re stars, just unlit.

Juno gravity results imply Jupiter’s core is dissolved hydrogen plasma sludge, also known as the dilute core model. Kronoseismology (using saturn’s rings as a seismograph; Cassini read it like a DVD) implies the same is likely true for Saturn due to the discovery of g-mode waves mixing with the f-mode signal detected by ring occultations.

Yes.

Y dwarf stars are a mix of what was previously classified under those mass classifications.

dated July 1997 issue of the magazine

Here’s Jupiter on Wikipedia’s list of Y-class brown dwarves.

Jupiter and Saturn are in fact brown dwarves.

Stellar classes are OBAFGKMLTY, from most to least massive.

Jupiter and Saturn are brown dwarves, and fit many definitions of “star”.

They are both large enough to have developed a hydrogen plasma core furnace that dissolves the rock and ice that was once their core. They are more than just a hydrogen atmosphere, down to the core they’re a big ball of plasma undergoing all of the same physics as stellar tissue, except the pressure at the center isn’t enough to ignite fusion.

Uranus and Neptune, meanwhile, are likely too small for this, and maintain a fluid ice layer and rocky core beneath their hydrogen envelopes. There is not enough hydrogen for it to take over these worlds. Therefore, they are planets, not brown dwarf stars.

Jupiter and Saturn, however, have grown large enough for the hydrogen to have turned to plasma and dissolved and supplanted their cores with a plasma furnace.

The solar system has three stars. We are not too early to explore other star systems. We know of many planets around Jupiter and Saturn. The extraterrestrial planet with most earth-like atmosphere and surface geology that we know of is Titan, and it’s in our neighboring (sub) star system. Huygens and Juice and Europa Clipper and Dragonfly are humanity’s first missions to planets around other stars.

No factory default due to data corruption, so I uninstalled it as bloat. Then I wrote a few of my own to play with, but instead of dynamically assigning at boot I set up hotswapping.

I don’t know if I can just accept that it’s not.

I know a lot of people who will be rightfully outraged if Trump wins. If Trump wins, it will be due to election interference and from stopping people from voting. He may win the electoral college, but is unlikely to win the popular vote. There are many reasons to see a Trump victory as illegitimate. If Trump wins there is a very strong chance of a civil war.

If Harris wins, there may be another Jan 6th-like action. Without Trump leading the MAGA movement, all that organized hate becomes a target for a more competent leader to harness. There is a chance that that might spiral into a larger conflict.

Thank you, and I plan to.

As I said, I have a handful of strong cases to vote for Harris. I also had this one dissenting voice in me that was screaming to get expressed so I could look back at what I said and analyze it. Thanks for analyzing it with me. Doing this in public and with input from others helps me vet my ideas. I don’t have a social network anymore to talk about these things with. So much social cohesion broke down during the Trump years, and it hasn’t grown back well at all.

We don’t live in a unified country, and we need to be willing to say that we are broken so we can fix ourselves.

I’m not an accelerationist, and I’m not calling for civil war.

I just see that it’s coming.

I’m not an accelerationist. I’m a realist.

America is already dead.

A civil war is coming.

2025 will be another 2020 no matter what happens in November.

I don’t want the dead weight of a dead government on the side of democracy. I want the side of democracy to be free to invent something new. I don’t want a broken down old democracy fighting against a modern authoritarian. I want the authoritarians to be saddled with the complacency and inertia of the state. I don’t want the authoritarians to be free to invent something newer and more powerful that can bring our doddering democracy to its knees. Our government is old and has been stripped by Reagan/Bush/Trump. It is a liability to be running it.

People are about to die. A lot of them. I want democracy to have its best chance of coming out on top. That means that the people have to want it.

It kind of did!

In 2017, people got mad and started taking action and taking to the streets before complacency set in. This unrest kept ramping up and took another big jump in 2020. What took the wind out of the sails of people taking action and demanding change was Biden getting elected, allowing most people to fall into complacency while Biden did nothing to fix our problems and instead got us involved in multiple overseas conflicts.

With Trump in office, the people resist. That’s what happened last time, and the people rising up and finding unity through resistance seems to me the only way to overturn America’s broken and indefensible systems. The question is who will be resisting/overthrowing, and what will they institute in their place?

If Harris wins and the Trumpers are overthrowing, the options for outcomes of the ensuing war are the mildly fascist status quo, or the super-fascist usurpers. I don’t have high hopes that many people will stand up to fight in this case.

If Trump wins then those who love democracy and liberty and equality will be the ones who rise up and resist, fighting for the best of these options.

As I said in my first post, this is the only reason that I consider Trump. I have a whole handful of reasons to consider Harris.

Social matters

Did I mention social matters? I mention foreign policy pretty exclusively, with a smattering of climate urgency.

Civil war

I’m pretty sure that’s inevitable in 2025 regardless of who wins. If Trump wins, most Americans will be upset and will resist, more strongly than last time. Even if the democratic party doesn’t want democracy or liberty, many of the people do.

If Harris and the republicans win, the people who want democracy will be on the side of the broken state, fighting a lost cause. If Trump wins, those people will be fighting against the state to build something new.

I’d rather fight for a better system over defending a broken one. I see war and unrest as inevitable.

I don’t think that the system will allow us to change the democratic party, not because the people don’t want it, but because the democratic party won’t allow it while they are in power. The people are NOT represented by any party or any part of our government.

The whole world is already fucked. Trump taking over will only fuck America faster and give the rest of the world a chance to not get fucked by America.

For your optimistic scenario, do we have the time for all of that? Does the middle east? Does the world? Is that even a possible outcome of all this? Or will it all just blow over and we’ll pretend like nothing happened (see four years of Biden) while Harris just doubles down on world annihilation? She’s promising to be a republican, I’m just taking her at her word.

Have you considered that you might end up on the losing side?

If Harris wins, I’m on the losing side, as is anyone who cares about civil liberties or democracy. Voting for Harris is voting to lose with complacency and voting for a position of despair that lasts four more years.

If Trump wins, I have high confidence that I won’t survive the next four years, but at least I’ll be going down fighting, and at least there will be some hope that civil liberties and democracy can be restored in the process. Some hope of rebooting America and to create a nation that values democracy. This is a position of hope. I believe in the American people. We are strong. I would rather see those interested in democracy and human rights unite against the tyrannical government instead of acquiescing to tyranny with a rainbow flag on it.

I want to live in a democracy that promotes liberty. Voting one way has no chance of delivering this, but will be comfortable for me as I watch the destruction the planet. Voting the other way opens up a possibility for democracy to win, even if it’s slim. This position of hope is what I am interested in. I see no path to democracy or liberty through the democratic party. Harris is only promising to double down on W’s policies of American destruction.

Russia, China

I also strongly detest these authoritarian regimes. America’s military spending is orders of magnitude larger than theirs, and America is driving the arms race. Reducing the American military will reduce the need for arms for these countries.

Ukraine has only ever been part of the West when the Ashkenazi Jewish glue acting as transliterators were present in the country. Post nazism and post zionism, the people who could keep Ukraine in the west were removed. As long as the Jews are distracted by their genocidal aspirations instead of going home to defend against Russia, Ukraine is a lost cause.

China and Russia both have disastrous policies in central Asia. Ukraine and Taiwan are small fish. Central Asia is the most sensitive ecological and cultural target of Chinese and Russian interference. The US does not care to protect this region because there is no oil. If America were actually providing a challenge to China and Russia where it matters, I might view things differently. I’d love to see a plan to save the Aral sea and central-asian ethnic populations such as the Uyghurs.