Shake747

If it’s free from a for profit company, you’re most likely the product

It’s not so much what their interpretation is of the specific article is, it’s more that you might find more information from someone who has info that was left out, or maybe another source that has conflicting information.

Could you show us a few not so biased news sources? I suppose this will also vary wildly by topic. A news outlet might be narrative/propaganda driven on one topic, but not about another.

It’s so much mess (through corporate ties or money) to sort through, it’s hard to trust any of them anymore

Yeah, what a horrible headline lol.

It’s about Facebook allegedly stopping it’s streaming service to keep one of its largest ad revenue customers happy (Netflix), but also that court docs were unsealed in an anti trust suit, and Facebook may have agreements with Spotify and Netflix, to allow them to read users DM’s (no idea why that’s relevant but yeah, fuck Facebook! Lol)

It’s very speculative though and may not be true. Not that it’d surprise me if it were true either though…

🤷 Does anyone here even use Facebook?

Sometimes there’s good discussion though, and it’s good to hear different takes.

Having comments also gives less power to the writer, like could you imagine if we all took Fox News or CNN headlines at face value and didn’t discuss them?

Id be surprised if all admins of every instance that’s federated with Lemmy are all on the same page, let alone looking for narrative driven bots.

I see “Ukrainian combat footage” with hundreds of upvotes and no comments, there was also an article speaking positively about facebook that had lots of upvotes and no comments (it’s in my history of you look, because I commented lol) - those look like red flags to me

There’s already loads of upvote/downvote bots in the fediverse here - would not be shocked if a large portion of them are from governments

Hah! yeah

How does Microsoft always fly under the radar?

Either they’re not Chinese or they don’t look further than 1 comment deep

This is how I know there’s upvote bots rolling through here.

Who tf on Lemmy commends Facebook…for anything?

That’ll be $400 for the privilege…

The comments from when that happened a few years ago? Is that was you’re referring to?

Because I’m referring to most of the commenters in this thread having a big 'ol hate circ jerk.

In my head, being on the left used to mean compassion and tolerance, but it’s clearly the same spitefulness as the right. I’m beginning it think this is just how tribalism in general works, doesn’t matter what team you’re on

They’re all back online now. I mean I dislike the ultra wealthy as much as the next guy but y’all got hate boners

Yeah, it’s not any different than ICE vehicles, people here just love being on the Elon hate train. If it’s related to anything he touches, you’ll mostly only see negative comments be upvoted. Me saying this tends to set some off too so

BRING THE DOWNVOTES, I DRINK YOUR TEARS

Oof you can’t say anything on Lemmy that defies the “we hate tesla because Elon” culture - even slightly.

Enjoy the -30 downvotes lol, I’m sure I’ll join you shortly.

Kind of wild you got down voted for showing people credible sources that raise concern. I don’t think they want to hear it and I’m not sure why

You asked me what source I need to want full trials for a vaccine. You have the wit of a teenager.

mRNA hasn’t been used in a vaccine like this before.

30 years in the scheme of things is still absolutely nothing. We had lead in our gasoline and our drinking water pipes for decades without anyone actually understanding the issue, and just trusting “it’s all safe!”

Virus comes out and we pump out a fully produced vaccine in MONTHS. Of course it’s safe and tested fully /s

Right because injections and washing your hands are comparable.

The “source that told me” was a bit of critical thought and common sense. This was a vaccine with tech we’ve never used on massive populations before, pushed by political leaders, followed by media outlets and gov leaders trying to paint everyone who questions it as if they’re the worst people humanity has to offer. Ofc we need extensive trials for a vaccine like that (or any vaccine), especially when the producers of the vaccine are immune from liability.

Do you remember what informed consent is? If you’re injecting stuff into you, without fully understanding what either the virus itself can do, or what the vaccine can do, you’re just blindly following people.

It’s this same mentality and confusion that lead to our current opioid pandemic. Blind trust in our institutions and leaders

You’re going to get covid. Vaccine or not.

Get the vaccine if you’re elderly or have underlying risks, otherwise doing 3 shots a year to stay up to date doesn’t look very beneficial anymore.

We didn’t know how ineffective the vaccine was in the beginning, but our leaders still said things like “This will protect you. Fully. Everyone needs to have it”. I’ll provide links if you didn’t see any of that going on.

It was a lot more political than it was scientific, which is a huge red flag.

There obviously isn’t one, that’s part of weighing the risks - which we didn’t have enough time or data to do for covid and it’s vaccines. Part of the whole informed consent thing.

Thankfully we can all now choose, and see better data

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/natural-immunity-protective-covid-vaccine-severe-illness-rcna71027

The worst symptoms are death. I see your point about extending the metrics, and maybe I should consider more than just dying, but I think it’s a strong factor in why this whole thing seems over blown in the way mandates and restrictions came.

For polio, it was about stopping death, paralysis is a death sentence in most places in the world.